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I run one, very popular site with Alexa ranking of 120,000 that makes less than one with a ranking of 5,000,000
Layouts and AdSense colors are about the same, but the latter is focused around a topic with more advertisers...
I've been a publisher for about a year now and the one constant I've seen throughout is that those with many sites on different topics don't have nearly the huge revenue swings that others who have only one big site do.
You don't need multiple sites to protect yourself from revenue swings; you merely need multiple subtopics within your site, assuming that your "umbrella topic" is large enough to encompass a variety of subtopics.
There are advantages to investing your time in a large, comprehensive site instead of spreading yourself thin with multiple small sites on completely different topics:
1) Your site has the potential to become an authority in its niche.
2) You're likely to attract more unsolicited links from quality third-party sites, which will help your overall ranking and "critical mass" in Google Search.
3) You're likely to attract more "site-targeted" CPM ad campaigns from AdSense (which may not be important now but could be a biggie down the line as more mainstream, non-PPC advertisers use the Google content network).
4) Your "umbrella theme" will allow Google to supply relevant ads for your audience if there's a shortage of inventory for targeted ads on specific pages.
Disclaimer: I'm not saying that the "have a lot of sites on a lot of different topics" strategy can't work; I'm merely suggesting that building an authoritative site in a broad (but not too broad) niche can also be a successful strategy, depending on your topic, your knowledge and resources, and your long-term goals.
Just been on Adsense for a month -- playing it straight, just adding links to my existing semi-niche tech site.
Just had my first $2 click today! Got very excited about it, too. :)
So far I've only made $30, but if all my clicks were worth $2 I'd be a very happy and significantly better off man.
Been enjoying the advice and debate here and seriously do believe earnings described by all.
4) Your "umbrella theme" will allow Google to supply relevant ads for your audience if there's a shortage of inventory for targeted ads on specific pages.
Totally agree with you EFV. But that shouldn't stop you from creating another authority site with the same concept of your existing one.
For instance, I have a large UK-site thats an authority in its field and I now decided to launch a US-version of it utilising the expertise I've gained and leverging the credibility from the UK site onto the US one.
In your case EFV, whats stopping you from creating a similar site and calling it America for visitors for instance?...As I rush to register the domain name ;)
In your case EFV, whats stopping you from creating a similar site and calling it America for visitors for instance?...As I rush to register the domain name ;)
Thanks, but I'm already spread thin enough (even if I'm not thin). :-)
I started three months ago, and have built only one site up to 180US per month, ever month and growing,
I knew absolutly nothing about being a webmaster,
now I own my own server, and am about to buy antoher 3000gb bandwidth, all supported from AS,
This is for those that dare to dream, and believe in themselves,
Well done everyone!
I too sllep every night with quiet excitement
srn
How can people make money without top Alexa rank?
You can have no Alexa rank, PR0, no free traffic from search engines and still make over $10,000 a month. Many here are using PPC to do just that. Admittedly, it's a bit more difficult with Adsense than affiliate programs but it's possible.
How can people make money without top Alexa rank?
Stop, stop, my sides hurt from laughing too hard.
Comparing earnings and Alexa rank would be like comparing laws passed by congress with popular opinion, one has nothing to do with the other. Alexa is just an imprecise unit of measure that I flaunt in front of my advertisers.
Alexa ranks me around 24,000 now and I'm deep into 4 digit AdSense earning.
However, it's hard not to earn a little with 1.5M page views a month.
It's called Adwords, FindWhxx, OV, etc. If you get high enough epc then you can drive 1000's of visitors a day via advertising
Re: "Finally, your ad performance might not be optimized. Have you read Google's AdSense Optimization Tips? I made a very simple change based on the heat map, and within a day I could easily tell that my pay was going to go from the $1800 it was in March to over $3000 in May. My results so far this month continue to bear that out."
Thanks, I did significant changes to my websites
accordingly to ALL suggestions on Optimization Tips and heat map. After that the actual "earnings" (I haven't received a PIN in a month yet and no payments so far) slightly decreased...
When I read high earners posts they sound like Google employeees postings. I'm only suspecting so far. All this mistrust started with two "lost" PINs for AdSense which is unbelievable that a letter sent within USA gets lost. Never happens!
When I read high earners posts they sound like Google employeees postings
EFV, own up to your real full time job! ;)
As per above one of my sites reported ONE click, but ZERO earnings from that click. How can that be? Thanks.
seriously, write about what you know and/or what you are interested in. that's the only real ingredient for long term (years) success (aside from constantly soliciting anchor-text-relevant links, gaining page rank, optimizing and re-optimizing...
<deleted what ownerrim already stated... our posts crossed>
Earnings per click of $0.10, a healthy CTR and a bunch of traffic can also make you thousands of dollars.
Now you are wondering why you are only earning $180 per month? You had 6 impressions? For the whole day?
Any clicks which Google considers invalid will not be credited. For instance, if a site publisher clicks his own ads, they will not receive credit for that click.
So, my advice to neonrider is this...feel free to quit. Too many crap publishers spreading this system too thin anyways.
I'd also try to forget about Alexa rankings... as many have said before - it's generally not worth squat.
Focus on your server logs instead, they are lots more valuable.
Where can I get the list of say TOP 500 keywords that are paid most by Google and others?
You can hazard a guess that automotive, dating, casinos, travel and such would pay very well.
If you want a complete listing you may have to resort to blackmail and extortion to get it as most people won't part with their money keywords and faster than they'll cough up an ATM pin number or the combination to the safe.
