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Google taking unfair action on publishers in certain countries?

Lots of AdSense accounts suspended

         

iselong

8:19 am on Apr 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Lot's of Adsense Accounts Banned,including mine.

Most of them received the letter from Google said:

invalid click, what a mess, i never click adsense on my website,maybe google don't known, in China, my people surfing the internet by sharing the same ip,
it's even said that some City-Lan with several million people using one IP address to go to the internet, is that the question?

anyway, i don't think google can explain it's action very well.

Noel

10:09 am on Apr 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Wow that sucks man.

re: City-Lan with several million people using one IP address to go to the internet..

Yes I was reading an article about this and that you can get a 1Gbps up en down for "only" $215.

Noel

stuartmcdonald

10:20 am on Apr 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dont' talk to me about access cost! Here (in Cambodia) we pay US$230 a month for 256kb (before the obscene bandwidth fees) and we have the same IP problems users in China do...

Not sure how Google deals with it (the IP issue) from a click fraud point of view as there are quite a few Cambodia-related sites running adsense that have a very large local user base...

photo200

10:52 am on Apr 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Did you try to explain that to Google guys?

davthp

12:07 pm on Apr 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I would reckon that Google are not just monitoring IP addesses! If it was then you would expect them to ban all accounts on the same IP.

iselong

12:45 pm on Apr 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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the question is:

The GG Group do not told you the exact reason why you were banned, they just send you an email which like a auto send mail, just told you vialte their rules, and you were kicked out, and no other explantions.

I also heard that, one guy have 2 Adsense Account, one addressed in China, the other adressed in England, and he use the same method to implement GG Adsense on both of his websites, the China addressed Account was banned, and the England addressed Account is just okay.

I think it's a shame that GG use the Location to judge which account should be banned.

Any way, GG haven't got the Chinese government's pomission to hold Advertisement on Mainland China, this is a vilation of law, can you imagine that? GG vilate the law of China, and GG steal the money which he should pay to those honest Chinese Webmaster.

It's a shame, totally a shame to Google.

ifly

1:30 pm on Apr 25, 2005 (gmt 0)



I think Google is becoming more and more evil.
I have posted a thread about this,GG bans Chinese webmasters without any reason.
Maybe we webmasters will have to be evil too!

http200

2:39 pm on Apr 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Actually, I don't mind G holds my payment if G can give me a good reason. I can only see a nonsense "Your payments are currently on hold" on my adsense control panel. It's really ridiculous for a big company.

Jenstar

3:12 pm on Apr 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I can guarantee you that Google is not just randomly suspending publishers for no reason, especially if they all reside in the same country. If a publisher is suspended, the evidence will go far beyond an instance where many people who might click the ads have the same IP address. The same could be said for all those using AOL in the US, or one of the other countries where a major ISP gives the same IP to many customers.

There are definitely other factors AdSense looks into than just IP address alone when looking at click fraud.

iselong

3:55 pm on Apr 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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i have wrote to google to request them to give me a sound reason, and if there is any replies, i would be glad to share it here.

activeco

4:39 pm on Apr 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I can guarantee you that Google is not just randomly suspending publishers for no reason, especially if they all reside in the same country. If a publisher is suspended, the evidence will go far beyond an instance where many people who might click the ads have the same IP address.

I can guarantee you that Google is surely not what you think it is.

Well, not anymore.

phantombookman

5:20 pm on Apr 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Google has to be more sophisticated than banning publishers on the basis of IP clicks.

If not then anyone could get their competitors banned.
I don't pretend to know how they do it but there must be more to it than that.

petra

5:25 pm on Apr 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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i have wrote to google to request them to give me a sound reason, and if there is any replies, i would be glad to share it here.

dont expect anything but a canned response

thvi

5:32 pm on Apr 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Google has to be more sophisticated than banning publishers on the basis of IP clicks.

If not then anyone could get their competitors banned.
I don't pretend to know how they do it but there must be more to it than that.

This really is the 64,000 dollar question. It would be good to get something concrete on this. What a coup most competitiors would count it to pull it off.

I'm guessing that, even in the case of an organized "hit" from competitiors, that the thing Google is looking for is your own IP address AND other metrics that point to the publisher.

Your competitors multi-click, they can filter out (knocking on wood with a HUGE sledge-hammer). Things that appear to resolve to you, no. But, I am not too sanguine about testing this theory out.

Noel

5:44 pm on Apr 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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stuartmcdonald
Dont' talk to me about access cost! Here (in Cambodia) we pay US$230 a month for 256kb (before the obscene bandwidth fees) and we have the same IP problems users in China do...

Hmmm I'm, talking 1Gbps up en down for "only" $215 p/m.. I do not think ANY other country got a 1Gbps for as low as $215 p/m!

I would love to have 1Gbps. :-)

Noel

iselong

1:36 am on Apr 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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still get no replies from evil google.

keep an eye on such things.

dongjp

2:07 am on Apr 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi Islong,

I think there are many factors for G to judge an account validity. Answers to the following questions might give you some clues.

What is the language of your web pages?
How long have you generated revenue from your adsense account?
What is your average monthly revenue from adsense?
Is your CTR too low (below 1%) or too high (above 10%)?
Have you many friends that know your website?

asinah

2:29 am on Apr 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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iselong, could you share with us what content do you have?

iselong

3:09 am on Apr 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What is the language of your web pages?
A:My site is an English study website online on year 2000, the navigation of the site is Simplified Chinese
but the main content of site are mixed, some of them are pure Chinese, some of them are partly Chinese,partly English, and some of them are all English.

How long have you generated revenue from your adsense account?
A: I applied for adsense about 5 months ago, but not impliment adsense code until this Jan. Since there is more than 50000 html pages about my site, so it really takes a long time to add adsense code in all my pages.

What is your average monthly revenue from adsense?
A:
Jan, about 60$ :only several pages
Feb, about 300$ :Adsense code were added to more pages
Mar, about 900$ :Ad Code were added nearly all the pages

Is your CTR too low (below 1%) or too high (above 10%)?
A: it's varied,depends on which position i put the adsense code on, below 1% from the beginning, after i changed the position, it growing up to about 1%, but never higher than 10%.

Have you many friends that know your website?
A: yes, my site is a well-known english study website among the English Study related websites, the PV is about 30000/day.


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dongjp

3:33 am on Apr 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

Icelong, I'v sent a sticky mail to you.

burntan

4:38 am on Apr 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I hope G could allow publisher to ban ads display for certain IP, then this will ensure no click from same lan or city-lan users.

iselong

12:29 pm on Apr 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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i have send 2 email to goole, and no any replies yet.

why google keep silent?