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And I mean, TERRIFIED. As in, shaking in your boots. As in, shivering with the cold sweats.
Then again, I'm sure I don't earn nearly as much as some of you people with Adsense, so I don't have my entire livelihood hanging on their every whim. But geez, I'm not sure if it's healthy, you know?
However, I just got approved for an account with an AdSense competitor - so I feel a little bit better.
I am also trying to strengthen the diversity I already have for other income sources.
But yes, you are right, we all live in fear that we will be unjustly kicked out of the program.
I think.
As for being worried, I'm not ... maybe I'm wrong, but I think most of the people who freak out about it were probably doing something they weren't supposed to do.
So it might be a good thing for google to have the image of an easily offended god.
Might the stories themselves even be posted by google? Ahh… Conspiracies ;)
Most of the people who are terrified of 'Big G' are either those whose sole source of income is Adsense or those who are trying some 'wicked tricks' to get extra income from Adsense.
Pure Bulls**t.
I am not trying any wicked tricks and it is not my sole source of income.
It's just that my adsense income in 1 week is more then most people make in a month. It's a big amount. I've worked hard for: building clean sites, playing by the rules, playing it safe.
The fear most people have is that there have been too many posts on this forum by people who have gotten kicked out and couldn't understand why. Some of them were probably guilty, but the majority of them in my opinion and the popular opinion here - is that many of them were in fact innocent. There have just been too many of these post to believe that some of them are not wrong in their innocence.
When it comes to Google I would be more afraid of being booted from their index than from AdSense.
I'm not afraid of getting booted out of AdSense. Why would Google want to kick me out? The way I see it, because my site is popular Google really *wants* the space on my Web site for their ads. They are not just doing me a favor by allowing me to run their ads. It's a win win situation for me and Google so I expect I would have to do something really awful and blatent for them to even consider booting me out of the program.
That's why I'm not afraid.
Should I be?
- Kathie Fry
Nope, you lost me.
your point is?
However, as long as you are acting well within the terms and policies (and it doesn't hurt to have another read-through of both of them for a refresher, just in case you are doing something that Google frowns upon) you shouldn't be paranoid or terrified about the possibility of being suspended.
you shouldn't be paranoid or terrified about the possibility of being suspended.
I came back from holiday in the middle of nowhere to get the dreaded mail and unlike some on this board I WASN'T connecting to a wirelss network (to be honest I wouldn't know how to)to check my stats every minute of every day.
Now, google at NO point ever explained to me why I was kicked out other than the usual invalid clicks e-mail, (followed by the usual canned/boilerplate response) .
I wonder how many people on this board state "oh I don't have anything to worry about, I send G good traffic I get a good income etc." and then will bleat when they get the e-mail. I will admit, I am a member of another board and I had a right good laugh when one of the biggest "your all guilty-just accept it" advocates got the e-mail. Talk about bleating like crazy. Now I am not suggesting that you personally are like that but people do get kicked out by mistake or are you suggesting that G NEVER gets anything wrong?
Perhaps I am unfortunate in that I don't have the personal contacts that some on this board appear to have. What really irked me about the whole affair was that I was making relatively little money compared to my "real job" (not internet related in any way).This job is in a responsible position and their high handed attitude in accusing ME of dishonesty (now lets not play semantics/pedantics or legalese here)I felt portrayed me in a particularly bad way. G should get their whole house in order (looking at the other threads on this board there are other major problems- scraper sites, sites made solely for adsense etc)
G will make mistakes, they will probably err way too much on the side of caution but that means some innocents (and I use that word in its truest sense) will be kicked out and thats why some people SHOULD be worried.
Jenstar said not just within the terms but
"well within the terms". I think thats really wise.But no matter how proper you design sabatoge is apparently a lurking beast we all are vunerable too and that is an issue id like to see addressed cause i bet some innocents have got the boot.
The new terms adhere to Google webmaster guidlines which is great but i bet lots of us junior designers are scrambling as we are more likely to have over optimized or improperly designed.
I used a redirect on a page i renamed and removed so i sent them a snippet from my htaccess for them to review just to be safe. I have apprently over 180 links on one page.I forgot that was against the webmaster guidlines or read it and never remembered, the page was made origianlly to give people a nice one stop directory for the topic.
And meta tag and keyword use, if more than 3 times a page could it be in violation? Some pages you have to repeat the word or your page wont make sense.
In short i can guarantee im ignorant but they will assume what they decide to.
Jenstars words are reassuring but Blair certainly has a point about the innocents.
... and this concludes the longest post ive ever made
Maybe some are, but I doubt if it's that many.
I don't believe you can measure such sentiment based on the posts made to a forum like this. The vast majority of adsense publishers don't post here.
Besides that, I suspect that a lot of adsense publishers are folks like me, those who were not making any significant money from their websites before adsense came along.
OK, I like the money, but I wasn't operating the site for the money before, and I'm not now.
Would I miss it if it disappeared, sure. It's a nice pot of cash, but I don't count on it to make the mortgage payment.
And to me, that's the key. Counting on adsense income would be a pretty unwise business decision for a single site publisher, at least if you read the TOS.
The greatest benefit I've gotten from Adsense is not the monthly check.
It's understanding that there really possiblities for making a decent income from a site like mine. Not only that, but it's a pretty good guide to at least the type of businesses that consider advertizing on sites in your category to be worthwhile.
If you are doing this for a living, and don't have multiple streams of income from your site(s) that allow you to deal comfortably with the loss of one of those income streams without it being a crisis, it's not the fault of the income source.
Hope you are right JimmyBoy
So do I. But if he/she is one of the "innocents" who do get kicked out in the future then I look forward to reading the post where he/she tells us that sometimes G makes mistakes.
DO have a propensity to kick out affiliates at a whim.
Kicking publishers out of a whim is a loss-loss situation for G: they are losing a money earner for them for no reason.
Take a look at this thread: only proves that G will often have a strong basis for suspending/kicking out a publisher
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As has been said several times here, review and re-review the TOS. Make sure you are in compliance. Then you have nothing to fear about. But try to do something in the gray area -- whether intentional or unintentional -- then you will always feel hanging by a thread.
As has been said several times here, review and re-review the TOS. Make sure you are in compliance. Then you have nothing to fear about. But try to do something in the gray area -- whether intentional or unintentional -- then you will always feel hanging by a thread.
I really could care less if G kicks me out. I'll just go with someone else. I don't make nearly as much with them to be "worrying" or spending all my time reading every line of their TOS.
Attitude such as yours -- "don't care to read the TOS" -- is the surest way to get kicked out of the program. Then whine and complain that G kicks out publishers on a whim.
It's all about taking responsibility.
