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How do I Report Adsense Problem?

         

designaweb

5:28 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

How do I report someone who is abusing Adsense? I have reported a few of this spammer's domains already, but is there any way to specifically report adsense abusers?

expert_21

5:37 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I guess that makes me a rat.

if that guy is a competitor of yours :)

alika

5:44 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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People surf the web. They visit sites that are not in the same industry as theirs. They don't only visit their sites -- and their competitors. During surfing, they may see sites violating the TOS.

I find it funny that folks here always assume that if you report a site, then it must be a competitor. It is NOT ALWAYS a competitor. It can be any site that one sees violating the TOS, whatever industry they may be in.

The moral is -- abide by the TOS always. If not, G may see you. Or if G will not see you, someone else will and report you to G.

expert_21

5:47 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The moral is -- abide by the TOS always. If not, G may see you. Or if G will not see you, someone else will and report you to G.

that is TRUE. Google sees everything.

designaweb

5:56 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If you are the one setting the policies and rules, own them, fine. If G asks you to help, fine. As long as G owns their rules and does not ask for help, I don't really see the point of spending your time with it.You might cause a lot of counter reaction from folks who (sometimes) do not take this stuff so easy, this would cause you to suffer as well.G makes (almost) all the money, they set up the rules, let them inforce the rules too. Who are we to do so? Do you re-program traffic lights because someone ran on red?

Google DOES ask you for your help mate, better catch up before you write. From the "Ads by Goooooogle" link:

Google would like to know what you think of these ads. Please provide your feedback by filling out this form:

I went to fill out the form and let G know there was nothing wrong with the ads itself, it's the page that bothered me.

As far as people who think of people like myself as rats, I am not to bothered. I am just trying to protect what's mine (which is a decent monthly income as a publisher). The only resemblance between myself and a rat is that we both like cheese as far as I am concerned.

ownerrim

6:04 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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generally, it's never good to encourage "the ratting out of others", and with "poor adsense sites", what's crap to one is art to another.

if google has problem publishers, they need to deal with the issue and monitor it. if they have insufficient manpower, hire more people.

with regard to advertisers getting conversions, i think a lot of that should be laid at the feet of advertisers. their pages load so slow that it is no mystery that some people click ads, give up on waiting for the advertiser's landing page (most people are still on dialup), and back out. that means no conversion---but that is not the adsense publisher's fault.

alika

6:08 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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if google has problem publishers, they need to deal with the issue and monitor it. if they have insufficient manpower, hire more people.

This is ideal, of course. Except that there's a resource that can be tapped -- the community. Ebay has done a great job with this, so why can't G?

buckworks

6:12 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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And yes I DID stumble upon this spammer when I was looking for something.

That happens a lot. As Google users we all have a perfect right to complain if there's useless crap in the top results.

It only takes a few seconds to enter a comment via the "Help us improve" link at the bottom of the search page, and it's NOT "tattling" or "being a rat" to do so.

Quality pages don't trigger complaints.

adfree

6:12 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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designaweb: But they (Google) asked about the ads, right? Or did they specifically ask to comment on other people's/companies work/property? They want to ensure the quality of their work, not ask you to become a reporter for the whole good of the big G.

snip

If it does not work there are two options: Google goes broke with their tool, so we'll use something else or we'll be asked for help in an acceptable set of rules and responsibility. Then we can reconsider, but not with shots from the hip, playing heros where there are none needed.

[edited by: Jenstar at 7:11 pm (utc) on Oct. 12, 2004]
[edit reason] No politics, as per TOS [/edit]

patski

7:22 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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not that I'm looking for another revenue stream, but... What actually is AS abuse?

gethan

7:38 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Sitescrapers - I report every one I see running adsense - these are not the work of innocent internet newbies. Possibly the work of the some of the posters in this thread ;) You know who you are...

"Help us improve" link - google has asked for help - I give them help - that goes for SERPS as well as adsense.

It is not ratting/snitching - it is feedback on the program/SE - and that's where the problem should be fixed - in the SERPs - spam is spam.

Reporting a competitor just to cause hassle however is just feedback spam - and google will (I hope) be wise to it.

martinibuster: I'll remember the helping out the newbie though - if I see someone encouraging clicks in a newbie way - To: webmaster@example.com -> Check your Adsense TOS...

sonny

7:43 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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- i hate rats even more. they're ugly, they smell bad, and tend to be very sneaky. and people who get a kick out of ratting are not to be trusted---not in high school, not in college, not at work, not anywhere -

Couldn't have put it better myself!

adfree

7:43 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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patski - read the AS TOS and do everything that G says not to.

patski

7:51 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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everything? I dont' have that much time.. :)

What is drawing unnatural attention to AS?

LIke putting your titles in red when nothing else is?

Unnatural attraction, sounds interesting though...

adfree

8:06 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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That would be: "hey buddy, yeah, you visitor there, want to support my site and check book a bit? Why don't you click at this text link right there, a couple of times for a couple of days would be nice, thanks for helping out..."

Born_User

4:35 am on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Those who are making serious big bucks on adsense aren't wasting time policing other people's sites or "helping" Google.

I see so many of those directory pages per day, it's not funny. If I reported all those guys, I'd hardly have time to do my own optimizing.

Let's just leave it up to google to police thier own search engine. What incentive do we have to help Google improve their share values?

For the "principled" person who feels it's their cyber-civic duty to report that abuse... wisen up. Instead of spending time trying to stop others, why don't you spend the same amount of time optimizing your own site and generating your own traffic? Or, you can shoot yourself in the foot and take time away from making more money with your site and instead give it to Google to make "their" program better. Geez Louise.

There is an inverse correlation between your own earnings and your concern about other people's sites. The more you make, the less you'll care. I promise.

And I promise you this as well... Google knows who's doing what. They have an agenda and they have a priority of what to handle and take care of first. I have been at the end of Google's pointed gun in the past, and I know that they will pull the trigger.

webmastertexas

4:57 am on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I guess it's no surprise that a lot of school hall monitors ended up doing the web thing, heh heh. :)

Folks, concentrate on your own site. It's not your job to go around policing the net. If you spent your time looking for terrorists -- okay, I'll applaud you. But you're sticking your nose in other people's business. There are billions of webpages on the net, billions more using the big G's ads. Even if you rat on 5,000 "bad" sites a day you wouldn't make a dent. Give up the delusions of "importance". No one's biting except you and your fellow ex-hall monitors.

buckworks

5:22 am on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It's not your job to go around policing the net.

You're right, it's not.

But filing a complaint when you get hit in the face with garbage is not exactly going around policing the net.

I'm getting a chuckle out of how rigid and judgmental and disapproving the "anti-tattlers" are. They're certainly equal to any "tattler" in that regard!

JuniorOptimizer

12:59 pm on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Postive action: making a page of content for your site.

Negative action: looking for the -removal of another's page.

Why not concentrate on building your best site and let Google fix their own problem?

eddy22

1:11 pm on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Certainly adsense knows that a complainant could be a genuine, competitor or just mr. jealous.
I don't complain unless some one steals content from my sites. Then I do the needful with vengeance.

designaweb

2:04 pm on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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@Born_User: I'd love to do a little comparison test here since I am sure my AS income ain't peanuts. However, sharing my revenue stats with others is a TOS violation :)

This thread is going nowhere... There are different groups of people with different opinions. Why not just let everybody decide what to do for themselves? If want to report a spammy site and feel good about that, then what's the problem? If someone else feels good about not reporting it - that's fine by me as well.

Oh well, guess some of you got bullied in highschool or something, so who's to blame.

aravindgp

2:57 pm on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Report ,but give a warning to the site owner ,else you might kill an innocent moms only source of income, who has no idea what the web designer did.

cubic

10:23 am on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Just few seconds ago I checked one of our news stories on Symantec and I saw the following ad on AdSense

<snip>

The URL points to a warez web site. Should I contact Google regarding it?

[edited by: Jenstar at 12:12 pm (utc) on Oct. 12, 2004]
[edit reason] No specifics that would lead to advertiser please [/edit]

trillianjedi

10:29 am on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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DoITellGoogle = HowMuchPerClick / MoralStanding.

If it bothers you, tell google and I'm sure it'll get removed.

Anyone have any idea what warez/spam advertisers pay? I suspect it's low?

TJ

cubic

12:50 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Actually it doesn't matter. 90% of our daily visitors are from the IT industry and thus they won't click on such type of ads.

trillianjedi

12:55 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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90% of our daily visitors are from the IT industry

Then you should consider whether or not it looks bad to your users and if so email google about it.

TJ

Sanenet

9:42 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You could always just ban the advertiser URL in your control panel.

However, if the ad has made it to adsense sites, then Google has reviewed the ad and has no comment to make.

EliteWeb

9:44 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Filter it out :P You'd be surprised who'd click on 'warez' and who actually buy 'warez' from spam email and who download 'warez'

xxxxxpp

3:36 pm on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)



prolly a stupid question, but what are warez?

moltar

3:39 pm on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Warez is illeagal copies of stuff. I.e. software, games, movies, etc... Some sites offer free downloads, and some sites making money selling the stuff at cheaper prices.

adfree

3:52 pm on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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aravindgp brings up a crucial point here.
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