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40 sites embedded with AdSense and only 93 cents today

         

dinrock

11:28 pm on May 9, 2009 (gmt 0)



Is it just me? Or has anyone else noticed a decline? Or am I actually doing SOMETHING wrong? I have 40 fairly decent sites...one PR5, Another PR4 and several PR3 and PR2....all indexed with some unique niches, skincare, sportscars, image licensing, dental care etc. As of almost 8PM NYC time, only 93 cents earned for today. I have optimized MANY of these sites and even began a decent linking campaign for many of these. Sometimes this stuff seems futile . . .

vero

12:04 am on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Have you had adsense on these sites for awhile and have the earnings been higher traditionally?

CWebguy

12:07 am on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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yeah, I have some sites that get no pageviews, hence no earnings, what have the earnings been in the past? high/low/non-existent

dinrock

12:35 am on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)



Hi vero & CWebguy....well, I've been averaging 5dollars and some days 11dollars per. So last couple days earning justa buck will make you wonder. All sites have had AdSense intergrated ranging from 1.5 to 2.5 years. VERY strange though, and I don't know if I should mention this (or even if it has any impact on thesites) but I had some malware on my harddrive and couldn't access IE or my email so installed CCleaner to wipe the crap off my system...this was a few days ago and I am POSITIVE that wouldn't have anything to do with it . . . but makes you wonder. In any case, with 40 sites, and making 5 to 10 per day (which is still paltry for that many sites), I have to ask....

PS: CWebguy...
I just got last month's check which was just under $200, so you can see how I wonder . . .

CWebguy

1:10 am on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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there are a couple of threads going on about this right now here. If there is any malware, it's in Adsense

Note: CCleaner wouldn't affect your websites

[edited by: CWebguy at 1:11 am (utc) on May 10, 2009]

dinrock

2:00 am on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)



Ha! Good one CWebguy! Exactly which threads in particular? If you can point me to them? I find it highly suspect, after months of intense SEO, link building and even redesigning my main index page for my PR5 site that this is happening

CWebguy

2:42 am on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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They are all in the top ten right now.

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dinrock

2:56 am on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)



Looks good CwWebguy...the threads I mean. I appreciate seeing this information. Something drastic within that system has fallen apart....I'm not really sure what it is.In any case, the fact I have 40URLs embedded with this code and not even a dollar in earnings ought to say something. At least to me.....alot of diligent, tedious time consuming SEO and all for nothing . . .

CWebguy

3:01 am on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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alot of diligent, tedious time consuming SEO and all for nothing . . .

such is life :) sorry to hear that buddy. It might get better though, we shall see. I've been watching it too. It's pretty much up and down for me now.

Cheers,

sunhapol

3:23 am on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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This day is a very bad one for me. My earnings is very way down more than 80% down today.

Jaideemaak

4:58 am on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Dinrock, I don't believe you are doing anything wrong.

Before AdSense, I had been running some sites for a long time just for fun with no income. I was a latecomer to AdSense but when I joined I found I could make easy money with no additional effort to what I was already doing. Great. It wasn't a fortune but it was something, and that was better than nothing.

It wasn't long before I got very close to getting a cheque each month and that seemed to be a reasonable goal. My earnings peaked after about a year of joining and I was very close to my goal.

Ever since then I have worked hard to improve content. However, while page impressions have gone up, Adsense earnings have gone down proportionally. It has been an endless trail of diminishing returns.

For a long time I hung on to the belief that all it would take was just one little tweak to get things back on target. Even in these forums people tell us they just made one little change and earnings increased substantially.

I believed this and I have spent lots of time experimenting but earnings just continue to plummet regardless of what I change. I am now out of ideas.

When I look at how many hours I have spent in the last year trying to get my AdSense earnings back on track compared to how much I have earned, there is no way I would do any other form of work for the same hourly rate.

However, I continued in the misguided belief that one day I would make the right tweak and everything would be wonderful again. In short, it became something of an obsession ... and obsessive behaviour is dangerous.

Enough is enough. The effort I was putting in just wasn't worth it and I have decided to leave everything alone now to get on with other things in life. My AdSense earnings should continue to cover hosting costs and domain registration, and with any luck there might be a little left over each month.

For doing nothing that is fine, but based on my experience, and for me personally, it is no longer worth putting huge amounts of effort into the program.

Good luck.

CWebguy

6:04 am on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I don't mean to get all religious or preachy, but just following up to what Jaideemaak said after just reading that, it's true that seeking after money can become a pitfall in life. Been there, done that, I try to focus my energy on other efforts, like just providing something useful to people, and letting things come as they need to. Hehe, I guess we are getting a little off topic from the original post :) Rant over!

Kres7787

6:05 am on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I've been Adsense publisher for since it started.

Was earning quite decent sums up until 4-5 days ago. We have some 60,000 impressions per day so it wasn't a little sum. However, since those few days we've seen a major decline in CPM and earnings. To about 20% of what it usually averaged at.

This is due to a major increase of Adsense PSA's.

Not happy about this at all! :(

[edited by: Kres7787 at 6:06 am (utc) on May 10, 2009]

CWebguy

6:13 am on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Wow, 20%, bummer

creeking

6:30 am on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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malware; hmmm.

check your sites to see if the adsense code still has -your- publisher ID.

and change the adsense/email passwords.

Kres7787

6:46 am on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I presume they are our adsense tags, since we still see same number of impressions. Lets say that we had about 800 clicks per day, and now yesterday for instance we had 80. That makes it 10% actually...

dermblue

10:53 am on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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yesterday's CTR was 10% of normal....today already looks like going the same way

dinrock

12:40 pm on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)



Jaideemaak: CWebguy is absolutely correct - you gave one helluva testimonial. Insights like that are on point, on target and right on- no two ways about that, and I feel the same way. I am not a web designer per se....nor do I consider myself an SEO aficianado/expert....a few years back, I was a technophobe. Someone mentioned HTML to me and it was "HUH?"....I didn't find this....it found ME and after it did, I feel like I saw something and like you said, it becomes obsession. BUT, and this is a big BUT....I look back at all of this and still have to wonder, I operate FORTY web sites, all have some form of adsense code embedded....and only $2 or so in the last couple days? I tell you, something is rotten in Denmark. By the way, who here has 1 site with adsense, 4 or 5 sites, up to 20 sites with adsense and more? And from a comparative standpoint, how much have you earned? Good feedback from all of you guys....thanks and I am glad I am not the only "FRUSTRATED" person
(Like Elvis shooting his TV, I want to do it to my desktop!)....an new phrase evolves...ADSENSE RAGE!

tangor

1:06 pm on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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The product continues to dilute... each here have multiple (20-40 sites) with multiple pages (20 to 60,000). That's an awful lot of landscape. Imagine that as billboards along side the road... you'd never see the countryside. Even if ad blindness has not set in, the very fact the ad has probably been seen thousands of times (but only clicked once) is also very real. once I buy my widget I stop looking at widget ads/products.

dinrock

1:15 pm on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)



Hearing that loud & clear Tangor....WHAT? some having 20-60THOUSAND pages on a site? Let me ask then....is it generating $2 per day? I have no where near that many pages deep. My PR5 has a good 50 or 60 at the most and that had generated roughly $3 and up to $7 or $8 per day....
Good points mentioned though. So to be brief, what number of sites + number of pages = (for you?) would this be a good formula? Here is mine for May 10 at 9AM:
40 SITES + 650 pages (rough estimate)= 11 cents

LostOne

7:10 pm on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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"By the way, who here has 1 site with adsense"

Count me in, and I was concerned about the dismal $100 Friday. I guess I'm not alone.

vordmeister

7:26 pm on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I have 2 sites I regularly update. My most successful site has had no link building. Others link to it to share it with their friends. It's got maybe 100 pages (they take a couple of days each to write) and a forum with a gazillion pages.

Number of sites or numbers of pages might not be the thing to aim for. Mind you, I don't aim to make a living from adsense so what do I know. Keep doing your thing if it works for you.

tangor

7:52 pm on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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To clarify... 20 pages up to 60,000 pages (and you guys know who you are). 20 sites by 20 pages is 400 pages by one webmaster times the estimated 1 million players is 400,000,000 pages any given day times days per year. With two ads a page that's 800,000,000 ads per day. Multiply that by the number of visitors. Numbers get astronomical fairly quickly. At some point there's more billboards than advertisers. Something has to give...and that is usually the value of the billboard, if nothing else. Not being pessimistic, merely observing that the present game, which appears to be the best at the moment, is getting saturated, or has to be so highly targeted that other factors must come into play.

dinrock

7:59 pm on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)



I wish I had LostOne's single website....that's damn good. Tangor....you make too much sense. I wish Al Gore had never invented this accursed internet!

dataguy

10:05 pm on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Sorry to hear of your declining revenues, dinrock. Many here, including myself, have been struggling to maintain earnings lately.

In your opening post you didn't mention the most important factor in ad revenue. How many unique visitors are you getting per day?

It's been discussed here before that a reasonable benchmark is $0.01 in ad revenue per unique visitor (note that this is not impressions or page views.) I'm curious as to how this compares to your network of web sites.

CWebguy

10:07 pm on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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It's been discussed here before that a reasonable benchmark is $0.01 in ad revenue per unique visitor (note that this is not impressions or page views.) I'm curious as to how this compares to your network of web sites.

Interesting, I came up with that figure on my own one time :) Good to know I wasn't too far off! hehe

dataguy

10:16 pm on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Interesting, I came up with that figure on my own one time :) Good to know I wasn't too far off! hehe

Actually I read it in a magazine (Wired?) during the dot-com boom over 10 years ago. Ever since then I've used it as a bench mark and it's proven to be pretty accurate. Funny how it hasn't changed over such a relatively long period of time. I've seen sites do 10x that amount and 1 tenth that amount, but usually it's right on the mark.

[edited by: dataguy at 10:18 pm (utc) on May 10, 2009]

trillianjedi

10:18 pm on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I have 40 fairly decent sites...one PR5, Another PR4 and several PR3 and PR2....

PR is meaningless as an ad revenue metric.

How many unique page views do you serve across the 40 sites?

CWebguy

10:29 pm on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Actually I read it in a magazine (Wired?) during the dot-com boom over 10 years ago. Ever since then I've used it as a bench mark and it's proven to be pretty accurate. Funny how it hasn't changed over such a relatively long period of time. I've seen sites do 10x that amount and 1 tenth that amount, but usually it's right on the mark.

My goal is to build a site now that people will want to keep on visiting. I believe you get a lower earnings rate on each visitor/page view but possibly greater revenues in the long run. It's all a game, hehe :)

Although one thing I figured into all this, is that you can never put a figure on the amount a person is willing to "spread the word" so to speak, and on a big site, this can mean a lot. Basically if one unique is bringing in four extras, etc. there is no way to account for this anymore, even though the traffic came from the one unique. I am calling this the "Brush Fire Technique", and do a Google search as I am writing on this now ;)

Cheers,

[edited by: CWebguy at 11:15 pm (utc) on May 10, 2009]

CWebguy

12:13 am on May 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

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To clarify... 20 pages up to 60,000 pages (and you guys know who you are).

I've still seen one page outperfom 60,000.

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