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Gandhalf

9:37 pm on Apr 12, 2009 (gmt 0)

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My adsense account has been disabled today.
Of course, I don't have a damn clue why and as I understand, there is noway I could even ask Google why they did this ?

I've been running adsense program from the beginning and have always played by the rule.

For a couple of years, it has been a very good revenue.
Then it started going down, more and more and now, I'm thinking...ahhhh...why even bother trying to talk to these guys ?

Did anyone ever get re-instated or even get an answer ?

koan

5:58 am on Jun 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Do you guys have any examples of "bad traffic" that Google would go to the length of closing accounts over? Is it just about those shady sites with programs like paid to surf, programs that artificially inflate traffic, referral traffic from adult/warez sites, myspace spamming, etc? Are you protected if most of your traffic comes from search engines? Or can you really have your site banned if your traffic attracts too many teenagers / third world countries / non-converting tech types?

swa66

1:24 pm on Jun 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Than last week it just hit me: I have a colleague that is in charge for our clients google adwords campaigns and I asked her if there was something she could do for me ?
So i gave her my publisher ID and she asked her contact at Google Adwords who asked his contact at Google Adsense what was wrong with that account and after a few days, the contact at Google Adwords forwarded an answer from his contact at Adsense, to my colleague...

It turns out that my Adsense account has been disabled for invalid clicks and if I can't come up with a strong case to defend my self, there is no way that I can get my adsense account re-instated.

Whoa: a third party getting reasons that should be between you and Google: now that's a privacy violation like no other I've ever seen them do.
That adwords contact ought to be fired on the spot for giving out info they should never even consider handing out ...

Samanthatouch

1:41 pm on Jun 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Do you guys have any examples of "bad traffic" that Google would go to the length of closing accounts over?

Sites that ask you to click their ads.
"Click my ad and then email me and tell me where your ad is and I will click it."

Cloaked sites
Adsense bot is served a different page than human visitor gets.

Incorrect political agenda.
Revealing statements about politicians that Google supports.

Thought crime.
Okay, at this point I am just joking but the first two examples are ones that I have personally seen people deal with.

signor_john

1:46 pm on Jun 10, 2009 (gmt 0)



can you really have your site banned if your traffic attracts too many teenagers / third world countries / non-converting tech types?

What you call a "ban" could be restated as "We've noticed that your site generates an unusual amount of low-quality traffic that wastes our advertisers' money, so--after careful consideration--we've decided that you aren't a good fit for our network." In other words, the "ban" may feel like a punishment to the publisher whose site isn't performing well for Google's advertisers, but that doesn't mean it's meant as a punishment or that Google is implying the publisher is a crook.

HuskyPup

2:02 pm on Jun 10, 2009 (gmt 0)



but that doesn't mean it's meant as a punishment or that Google is implying the publisher is a crook.

I'm not disagreeing with your excellent explanation here however what could be the possible scenario if a publisher were to be banned for the above but then later on realise what had created the problem and then wanted to create a higher quality site?

The publisher has done no wrong but in the eyes of Google he's "guilty" therefore not even allowed any chance to re-apply.

Maybe this is the way of corporate America, fill yer pockets whilst you can and screw you if your face suddenly does not fit?

This is not meant as an attack on the US, merely a puzzled UK businessman of 40+ years unable to comprehend Google's "do no evil mentality".

signor_john

3:23 pm on Jun 10, 2009 (gmt 0)



The publisher has done no wrong but in the eyes of Google he's "guilty" therefore not even allowed any chance to re-apply.

Whether he's "guilty" in Google's eyes depends on why his account was disabled, but it's important to remember that AdSense is an ad network, not an entitlement program, and Google doesn't have to do business with a former AdSense publisher any more than that publisher has to do business with Google.

It's like anything else: If I get fired from a job at Widgetco for lousy performance, why should I assume that Widgetgo ought to hire me back later on after I improve my skills? If I buy a Laptopia computer and it fries the day after the warranty expires, why should Laptopia assume that it can retain me as a customer by saying "We've improved our reliability since you bought that lemon"?

Sometimes you've got to accept reality and move on. If Google doesn't want to do business with you, find another way to earn money from your Web site.

HuskyPup

4:00 pm on Jun 10, 2009 (gmt 0)



Sometimes you've got to accept reality and move on.

Good analogy s_j...I must admit I have declined to supply companies precisely because I knew the hassle they may probably have given me and I simply didn't want it!

WolfLover

5:39 pm on Jun 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Samanthatouch, are you saying that if I have a political site and say the candidate I support is NOT one that Google supports, they would shut my AdSense account down?

Samanthatouch

5:48 pm on Jun 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Samanthatouch, are you saying that if I have a political site and say the candidate I support is NOT one that Google supports, they would shut my AdSense account down?

I was just joking but see how quickly I tweaked you with that. I specialize in politically manipulating public opinion for money. It's scary how easy it is these days but the young adults don't buy into it so there is hope for the future :)
It pays very well though, if you don't mind selling your soul.

HuskyPup

5:55 pm on Jun 10, 2009 (gmt 0)



It pays very well though, if you don't mind selling your soul.

I can be bought...for a price:-)

WolfLover

6:11 pm on Jun 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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But I have wondered that in the past myself and as soon as you said that, it made me realize that I am not the only one to have that thought. Because you made several points, then ONLY on the last one (thought crime), you said you were joking......

johnnie

12:46 am on Jun 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Sounds like Google decided you weren't a good fit for the program. They do this to protect advertisers from sites that don't produce sales.

If such were the case, they should shut down ad serving to the specific site only. The fact that the entire account got disabled likely points to some form of suspected click fraud. Since once again your account got banned and not your site I would even go as far as thinking google is suspecting YOU of this fraud attempt.

johnnie

12:54 am on Jun 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

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By the way, thanks for making me remind the story about the eggs and the basket.

Gandhalf

9:06 am on Jun 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Johnnie,

this is the point Google suspects me, but I'm not stupid enough to click on some adds (that aren't in the highest paying section by the way)
Fine.
(btw, the site we are talking about is an authority site in it's sector, that is a great service for its users: there is no way Google thinks it's not perfect for it's advertisers)

The point is: they won't even talk to me and give me an opportunity to discuss.

By the way: what is the difference between banned account and banned site ?
If my account is banned, that means someone else can display ads on my site ?

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