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If you see people are arriving at your "widget lock washers" page with a search term like "widget painting", figure out why that is. Too many not-on-target SE arrivals probably implies you need to split some content off and give it its own page (with lots of internal links to it, of course). Remember: people finding what they were looking for explains much of Wikipedia's ranking success.
In case you missed it, I'll reiterate an important sub-point here. Your URL is the one thing on the Google SERP that you have 100% control over. Stop focusing on keyword stuffing your URLs and focus instead on using a URL that accurately conveys to the searcher what they'll get if they click on that link.
In fact, if Wikipedia is overlapping into your Long Tail content, then why not jump on their back to higher rankings? Look at their page devoted to "widget wuffling". Make your own page devoted to defining that content. But make yours better/different. Supply something they don't. OK, now you've got a ready-made link campaign that will work a whole lot better than begging for cross-links. Use search tools to find all the pages hot-linking to Wikipedia's "widget wuffling" page. Track down those author email addresses and make your pitch. "I noticed your 'widget wuffling' link to Wikipedia and just wanted to point out that it says wuffling was first used in 1857. However, it was actually first used in 1856, as I've documented on my page at [...]".
If you're staying awake, you've just realized that tracking down links to Wikipedia pages can be a real useful research tool for AdSensers in the content business.
Wikipedia dominates rankings for a lot of different reasons, but a lot of those reasons are things you can do as well or better than Wikipedia. And you're not handicapped by a lack of consistent style, a prohibition against commercial or controversial slants, or a horde of random visitors who keep patching your content when you're not looking! Don't hate Wikipedia -- learn from the free lessons they provide.
One caution: be very careful about over-doing internal linking. There's a profusion of woes over in the penalty discussions at Google Search attributed to sites that link to every page from every page, i.e., red widgets, blue widgets, green widgets in a navbar on every page. In particulair, be careful about site-wide linking in footers, headers, etc. Organize content around the silo concept.
Its no fun to receive a 900 penalty.
Make an Authority Page that Attracts Links
Oh ain't that the truth? Anything that attracts the Five Ws and One H. They are an absolute gold mine and if you do them just right, they are evergreen and may end up being your most visited pages. I know some of mine are.
Again, great post and a topic I'm sure we'll see on the home page soon. :)
Heh! That define: rocks, doesn't it? These look familiar?
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One caution: be very careful about over-doing internal linking. There's a profusion of woes over in the penalty discussions at Google Search attributed to sites that link to every page from every page, i.e., red widgets, blue widgets, green widgets in a navbar on every page.
True, but that just illustrates the difference between organic and artificial, SEO-driven, brute-force crosslinking.
There's a big (and obvious) difference between a Wikipedia article that links to related pages within the text and an e-commerce or thin-affiliate page that links to a hundred other pages through running footers and navigation bars. Using hypertext links to cite related content is the most fundamental principle of the Web, and it's unlikely that Google would ever penalize the legitimate, organic citing of related content--at least on sites that otherwise pass the "sniff test."
The Wiki project is great, but I have to say that I am just waiting for it to somehow be commercialized, like just about every other major internet project that has started itself with the good interests.
Please please prove me wrong....I think that there are some serious ethical questions that get raised when a portal develops itself along one line (we want to build a resource) and so engages volunteers who "believe" in this knowledge share, and then the company changes tact completely (we're gonna just bolt on an Adwords or affiliate stuff and give nothing back to those people that slaved to create that content off which we're now making money).
Another reason why I think that Wiki sites go high is because it is one of the VERY VERY few portals (or whatever you want to label it) that serves a search query with relevant content. Therefore they popup near the top.
Search engines need Wiki badly, until they come up with some other way to rank stuff!
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The point is that great content is incredibly important, and spending forever tweaking a site for SEO that has no content is a waste of time.
OmniBox - You rely on search. Google have shown us with the release of Chrome where things are headed. I've already started shifting focus more towards the OmniBox concepts.
I'd be careful about relying too much on search, especially with a mainstream target audience.
AS for ronburk's post, it should be required reading for any AdSense publisher. Ditto for Reno_Chris's observation that "great content is incredibly important, and spending forever tweaking a site for SEO that has no content is a waste of time."
If people only take away one thing here it should be that in-content intersite linking is the bomb.
I'm a big fan of linking to relevant content wherever it is, and linking organically doesn't appear to have hurt my search rankings. That stands to reason: Google Search relies on links to find content and to calculate PageRank, so why wouldn't Google want to encourage (or at least not discourage) organic links?
There are also some who are distracted by links within the body of text (I am not one of those) and prefer to have links at the end of a given article, for example, for a centralized reference that does not pretend to be part of the narrative content.
What should I do ?
Add single sentance definition about main concept of my website on frontpage ? Or dedicate a page of my site just for the definition with more text ?
I'd like to put it on my frontpage, but it is a bit bizzare to have a definition there ?!
If you had to chose, what would you do ?
Thanks,
Brakkar
how do you get around to proper thematic structuring of your site without a top navbar?
but I am not sure how you handle the internal linking within the body of the page without appearing a bit artificial in terms of hyperlinking nearly every other word as Wikipedia does
Suppose you just added a new page/topic called "widget restoration". OK, the obvious, lowest-level way to apply the advice here is just to scan all existing pages for the word "restoration" and jam in a link to the new page. But you can put more intelligence into the effort than just a global find/replace. What other pages are conceptually relevant to this topic? For example, maybe you have a page on "widget prices", and it doesn't contain the word "restoration" anywhere -- why should it? But wait... would it be interesting/useful to visitors to see what the price of a complete "widget restoration" might be? Maybe that means adding some text to the new restoration page about what that might cost, and then adding a by-the-way link to the "price" page pointing to the "cost of widget restoration". And then, maybe that gets you thinking that people are often interested in the cost of lots of things that aren't line-item inventory objects. Maybe you start thinking about "the cost of not maintaining your widget", and "the cost per day of operating a widget", and... And then you're off and running into potentially useful new content, just because you stopped to think about your existing content in a new way.
What was the crux of the mental device that spun off new content in this example? Pretty simple. Whenever you add a new page, skim through the rest of your content to look for ways, even creative ways, those other topics relate to your new page.. This is an exercise in seeing connections you didn't see before.
The hierarchical linking structure is a great and useful tool; don't give it up. But the intra-site linking structure is an independent tool, one that can both help your rankings, and help you think about your content in new ways that will lead you to creating more useful content. Wikipedia effectively only has the intra-site linking toolset, but you are free to use both of these toolsets to your advantage.
If you spend a couple of hours drawing a "mind map" of all the concepts your content covers, you will probably end up with a lot of arrows connecting topics -- more connections than can be expressed with simple hierarchy. But if those connections exist when you think about your content, why aren't they available to your visitors? There's no reason they can't be -- just start using that hyperlink the way it was originally intended (in addition to your hierarchical scheme).
There are also some who are distracted by links within the body of text (I am not one of those) and prefer to have links at the end of a given article, for example, for a centralized reference that does not pretend to be part of the narrative content.
But consider your demographic. Is the vast majority of your traffic from repeat or highly sticky visitors who spend a lot of time going through your content? In that case, making most links footnotes at the bottom of the page might just be best most of the time. Is your traffic mainly people who come in from Google, dip into one page and then immediately flit off? In that case, I would think real hard about the attention span of those folks and lean towards making every link I could inline, in the hopes that I will be able to grab their attention and get them to slow down enough to read more than one page, if I've got the content that's relevant to them.
Does it hurt to double link? For example if I have a link in the references, can I also link to the same page within the text?
Does it hurt to double link? For example if I have a link in the references, can I also link to the same page within the text?
According to some awfully smart people over in the search forum, its a matter of degree and method. Don't double link from a page with minimal content. NEVER double link with different anchor text, it just confuses G. Don't double link like mad, linking to lots of pages from both the navbar and the body content. Don't double link on lots of pages.
Can a double link hurt ranking? Yes, if abused. Will it always cause problems? No.
Use it sparingly, and keep in mind how link juice flows.
This isn't over-doing the SEO factors at the expense of your viewers. Its just common sense to not fall into a ranking trap.