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Problems with Competitive Ad Filter

   
12:05 pm on Dec 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I'm having problems with ads being displayed by advertisers that have been listed in my ad filter for months. I use the preview tool to list the URLs and paste them in there and it comes up with a duplicate warning. Anyway of actually getting rid of these advertisers?
4:39 pm on Dec 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Same here. Apparently, some advertisers are immune to filtering.

(That's why I suggested to fix the filter, among other things, before actively asking for new features.)

8:59 pm on Dec 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Is anyone else having this specific problem?

ASA

11:33 pm on Dec 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I've seen ads that required the displayed URL to be entered (long ago though).
12:42 am on Dec 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

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yes ASA, I have.
And with big names too. Ebay, Shopping, shopzilla nextag etc
I have tried with and without a trailing /
1:44 am on Dec 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

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It's the big ones that seem to be causing the problems here too- and a weightloss that displays a different url than the target url in the preview tool.
1:32 pm on Dec 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

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It's the big ones that seem to be causing the problems here too- and a weightloss that displays a different url than the target url in the preview tool.

Yep, and still not fixed as of 19th dec :(

1:47 pm on Dec 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I've seen this problem this week as well.
6:16 pm on Dec 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Same here.
12:19 pm on Jan 12, 2009 (gmt 0)

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yes ASA, I have. And with big names too.

Interesting article over at Silicon Alley Insider [alleyinsider.com] that mentions the Top 25 US advertisers for each of the three big players. I don't know how credible that list is, but I do know that a couple of those names listed under Google appear to be immune to filtering (at least for us). I could imagine that ad spendings influence whether a site can be filtered or not.

5:28 pm on Jan 12, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I'm getting inundated with lesbian dating service ads via doubleclick, which are completely inappropriate for my visitors. If this state of affairs continues, we're out of adsense.

I've put them (hopefully) in the filter. If we can't get rid of them, our next step is to remove all image ads.

It's sad what google has done to itself.

1:59 am on Jan 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for caring adsense advisor! Nothing has changed, but at least I know I've been heard.
4:40 am on Jan 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I've managed to keep earnings up by constantly monitoring and blocking ads but my filter is filling up with garbage. Once it's full and my site visitors see nothing but crap ads and stop clicking, that's it, buh bye AdSense.

I'm with coach. This is pretty sad.

7:29 am on Jan 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I let it go a few weeks to see what would happen- Sounded like ASA was all over it. I guess not. I tried blocking a few more today and they were already in the ad filter. Nothing can be done I guess.
8:52 am on Jan 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I am surprised the ASA has become quiet over this. It is not as if he/she isn't aware of the problem.
1:26 pm on Jan 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I am surprised the ASA has become quiet over this.

Probably he got an explanation for this "bug" that he can't share here with us. (Probably along the lines of: "We know, we know. You see, that's the way it was designed. Geez, these guys spend millions of Dollars every month with us, so we can't fool around with them. They want to be seen - they pay for it. We do not care about their quality or what webmasters think. We want their money. Got it?")

4:11 pm on Jan 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I know I've preached this hundred times before... but we have pretty much seen zero problems with our ad targeting ever since we asked G to disable site targeting on our account.

I think the "loop holes" some of us think exist that let some advertisers slip through are most likely related to site targeted campaigns (more specifically category targeted campaigns) that are out of the control of the publisher.

8:04 pm on Jan 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I think the "loop holes" some of us think exist that let some advertisers slip through are most likely related to site targeted campaigns

It's not a case of us thinking it exists. It DOES exist. Nothing to do with site targetted campaigns either. These are all "big boy" sites that were filtered out, but are now bypassing filters.

8:15 pm on Jan 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I've had this exact problem as well - one of the main reasons I've reduced my spend down from $3,000 a day to about $200 a day! You'll never get me back to $3,000 a day as conversion rates have been dropping steadily via AdWords while they rise via organic traffic (meaning the per click traffic is mostly junk) but I'll increase my spend as long as it converts... fix the filter and improve anti-clickfraud!
8:16 pm on Jan 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I think you should also be able to specify like if someone clicks your ad you don't want to show that person any more of your ads for X hours or days. I've had a few competitors click my ads daily - need to stop that!
8:32 pm on Jan 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Gomvents, are you sure you're in the right thread? I don't see how your situation is related to the OP.
8:46 pm on Jan 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Around election time my every page was filled with prop 8 ads (California) from the same person. Every keyword, every topic, every single page... all political ads to vote yes for a good 48 hours. My topics have nothing even remotely to do with politics, kids can't vote, but the filter didn't remove a single ad.

Yes, I have the same problem. I'd also still like to know how this person was able to target every keyword.

9:30 pm on Jan 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Koan, my first post was OT 100%, my second post was related to AdWords in terms of the second biggest reason Google has lost a lot of our ad dollars - the competitive ad filter being reason #1.
10:08 pm on Jan 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Sorry, guys. This one is entirely my bad. It's not that AdSense dropped the ball, it's that I dropped the ball.

We've been looking into it, but I haven't provided updates because I've been out of the country. I apologize for not giving you all a heads up.

I'm going to message a few of you privately to get more specifics if you don't mind providing them (for troubleshooting use only) so we can determine if there is an issue on our end.

One quick question for all of you: what method are you using to determine the destination URLs you're adding to your filter?

Sorry again,

ASA

11:53 pm on Jan 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I'm using know urls i don't want my ads on like ask.com ebay.com etc.
12:13 am on Jan 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I right-click an ad, copy the URL, and paste it into the address bar.

I hack out all the encoded stuff on the left of the URL, then remove anything to the right that comes after the destination URL.

Each one is different, especially the URLs that lead to ad servers. And it's this kind of URL that is, in my experience, the worst offender. These URLs usually have both my URL, the URL of the final destination, AND the URL of the ad server. And it takes time to check all of this out.

12:59 am on Jan 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Is anyone else having this specific problem?

Oh yes. I have had it happen to me off and on for q very long time

1:09 am on Jan 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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One quick question for all of you: what method are you using to determine the destination URLs you're adding to your filter?

In the past:
1. Free Proxy webserver to target a region via my browser (not cgi if I can help it) - then copy and pasting adsense code into 'text-edit' (mac) and isolationg the destination landing page or redirect url.

2. Google's Preview Tool - Which I find has some limited use in displaying what appears - however as I do not use a Windows PC very often, as I find it's limited cross platform application very restrictive.

3. Formerly used an online tool at googelock- dot-com but I think it's now broken. Worked very well for a while.

1:11 am on Jan 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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It's the big ones that seem to be causing the problems here too

Could it be that they are exempt from being filtered?

5:16 am on Jan 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Either:

1. Google's Preview Tool which doesn't catch everything.
2. Right click on an adblock, select view source and search for "adurl". The real URL is found right after that and can be stripped down to just example.com for the filter.

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