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'Is it a Popup or not' issue
have a page that lets users open a single content area in a smaller window
( so they can drag it around, stare at it w/o all the other content. size is 490x4nn-whatever )
however people now use this URL as their landing page.
We can't just erase the feature that'd cause an uproar
so we want to have (small) ads on there as well.
when users open the URL in a full browser tab / window ( ~90% do this ) it's just another page, content scales up, our page, our content, so far so good, no policy breaches.
BUT
the button that should open this window ( ~10% uses this ) while makes it resizable it strips browser menus and the scrollbar w/ javascript to make it more compact.
ads + content display w/o problems but
...is having ads in a window opened this way against AdSense policies?
...
Scenario 1.: Yeah, it's a policy breach.
- 'open this in smaller' link w/ javascript ( no menu, no scroll but resizable )
- makes the otherwise OK ad placement on target URL a policy breach...
Q: OK, then at what point would it NOT be a policy breach ?
A1: if it had at least ONE menu? ( so users can switch on the rest )
A2: if it had a menu AND didn't turn off the scrollbar?
A3: both?
A4: if it didn't turn off anything? ( what's the diff. between A3 and A4? )
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Scenario 2.: Naw, it's OK.
- ad placement on URL has no problems...
- also URL is accessible ( often opened directly, linked, is visible, etc )
- users must willingly click the link ( on our own site ) to open the compact window
- everything displays nicely
- if users clicked an ad, window can be resized so they see the landing page
- most users open it in new tabs/windows anyway, meaning full browser features
- if it was Scenario 1. I could pop up a javascript window w/ a competitor's site in it and... (j/k)
We know there's no official word on what a 'popup window' is.
( anything that pops up? stuff that's automatic? stuff in compact windows? )
We'd like to abide by the rules, but first we'd need to know what they are.
( I liked jomaxx's closing message here [webmasterworld.com] but I guess it'd be time to know for sure. )
We know there's no official word on what a 'popup window' is.
( anything that pops up? stuff that's automatic? stuff in compact windows? )
We'd like to abide by the rules, but first we'd need to know what they are.
My opinion is whether or not the user requested the window to open.
[google.com...]
Pages showing Google ads may never be loaded in an unrequested pop-up. This means publishers need to be very careful when purchasing traffic or setting up ad campaigns with third parties. Before contracting with any ad network, you should ensure that they will never display your site in pop-ups or as a result of the actions of any software application.
Pages showing Google ads may never be loaded in an unrequested pop-up.
Interesting since I know what I refer to as a pop-up and what I consider a new window.
From my directory site all outgoing links on my reference pages open in new windows therefore does this mean any site I am linking to in a new window that have AdSense on them is contravening the TOS?
One thing I do know for sure, I'm not changing all those pages!
all outgoing links on my reference pages open in new windows
...but you (presumably) have to click a link to open the window... so it's not an "unrequested" pop-up, is it?
I put the words, unrequested pop-up and requested in bold font to make a point.
...but you (presumably) have to click a link to open the window... so it's not an "unrequested" pop-up, is it?
Aha...yep, the link does have to be clicked therefore do I assume that an unrequested pop-up is technically an interstitial?
Aha...yep, the link does have to be clicked therefore do I assume that an unrequested pop-up is technically an interstitial?
Yes, therefore AdSense TOS does not allow you to place the AdSense code in software that produces interstitial ads.
But I agree with what has been said here: Google is trying to avoid appearing in those nasty popunder type spam, not in a 'change of window' situation :)
