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I'm Out of AdSense Program (once again)

     

Januuski

5:01 am on Jun 10, 2008 (gmt 0)



I just want to share my reasons why I decided to get out of AdSense (once again).

First of all, I was AdSense free for quite some time before I decided to enable AdSense after we started to use AdManager.

Well, after about 3 months it was clear that AdSense is not for us. I just dont have the time to play this game. The arbitrage is still going on and I just dont have the time and energy chasing the same spammers.

There is one specific spammer that has hundreds of useless websites full of yahoo ads and I just dont have any way how to block this spammer or those similar to them.

Anyway, I do not need few pennies eCPM from AdSense and I do not have any tools how to control what is being displayed on our websites so I decided to remove SpamSense from our websites once again.

Good luck to all!

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[edited by: martinibuster at 7:31 am (utc) on June 10, 2008]
[edit reason] See Charter and TOS. [/edit]

zett

9:06 am on Jun 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Congratulations, Januuski.

I wish I could take that step, but the available alternatives do not work for me as they are quite inefficient (e.g. selling ads directly, or using other ad networks).

Anyway, good luck with your Adsense-free time!

himalayaswater

10:50 am on Jun 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Same here I wish I could move out but other programs don't work for me :(

Good luck and please update us on your progress.

Scurramunga

11:07 am on Jun 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Good luck to you, there comes a point where some of us have to move on.

I have decided to stop wasting too much time with adsense and concentrate on expanding my own product. It gets to the point where the spammers take up too much time. My solution is keeping just one adsense block on my best performing page to eliminate the maintenance and strangely I am the better off for it.

rj87uk

1:11 pm on Jun 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Up untill today I have been around 95% with Google Adsense and it still grows strong with great earnings and little work on finding advertisers.

However today I have decided to start testing other programs on my sites and based on the results over the next week I will be moving half my websites over to another program so that at any point either goes down or stops working I can simply change them all over in no time.

I am pretty happy with myself I am starting to move my golden eggs around the place.

fredw

6:34 pm on Jun 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I know this is the quintessential newbie question, but what programs are you switching to? Graphical ads don't work for me, I need text ads like Adsense. Yahoo, after years and years, still does not serve ads properly targeted for even the biggest niches. What's out there that works and looks like Adsense, has well-targeted ads like Adsense, but pays better?

moTi

7:18 pm on Jun 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

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congrats, i can only back up the previous posts. i so wish i could go adsense free. but the truth is, i am almost 100 percent dependent on google.

what especially wears me down is this "double dependency" on google, namely the serps positions to get the fresh click-friendly visitors and on the other hand adsense to monetize the traffic. for both instances there simply is no alternative. since years!

that really lessens my fun at work meanwhile..

foxtunes

9:25 pm on Jun 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

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If only Google allowed publishers to increase their filter list.

uhwebs

11:31 pm on Jun 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I have only used adsense & private ads. Did cj once but didn't make much.
I'd quit adsense too if I could find something that paid better (Selling private ad space?).

I'm going to look into google's ad manager thing... right now having to sell private ad space hasn't done as well as google (which is strange, I advertised my new site on my old site and have steadily been getting a ton of traffic... My new site is making DOUBLE what it would cost to run that ad on my large site...)

How do you get up the courage to make the switch from Adsense? When do you know it's time, and what do you use instead?

Januuski

3:08 am on Jun 11, 2008 (gmt 0)



Its all about GOOG's ego. They do not want to provide any tools to publishers that will give us any control over the ads displayed on our websites. They just think that they know better and that some algo can replace our brains. Once they realize that we can actually help each other they may have my business back.

Good luck to all!

RevenueGuru

3:32 am on Jun 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

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You are right. Google keeps a very tight control on all the ads. Sort of a modern form of bounded servitude :) I don't google.

zett

7:02 am on Jun 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I don't google.

Funny - I'm trying to get rid of my Google addicition as well. Lately I have been using Live search more often. (Admittedly, I switch to Google when the results for a search are *too* bad on Live.com)

cgiscripts4u

8:48 am on Jun 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

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when Google banned one of my sites I initially moved to bidvertiser, I tried a few others but bidvertiser proved to be the best for my site. I also installed an adserver and initially placed a couple of ads for affiliate sites as well as an 'advertise here'. Using a small javascript my pages serve bidvertiser ads some of the time and then my own ads the rest of the time.

Its been a few weeks now but I have had a couple of advertisers sign up directly. Only small change atm but if I get more advertisers then I can drop bidvertiser and up my charges.

Jafo

1:43 pm on Jun 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I myself will be moving away from Adsense completely too. I have been with them for a while but the ads today are just horrible. I do not blame my visitors for not clicking them. The only thing that has kept them on my site lately is the lack of time I have to go through the entire site and remove them all.

Time to get focused back on the core of why I made my site, which had nothing to do with advertising revenue.

EarWig

2:36 pm on Jun 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

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"If only Google allowed publishers to increase their filter list."

IF ONLY!
Can anyone give a reason why they cannot?

zett

6:11 pm on Jun 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Can anyone give a reason why they cannot?

Given the otherwise huge resources at Google, I suspect that technical reasons are to blame.

It's much more likely that business reasons prevent a bigger filter list. In theory, the more ads publishers block the less revenue is being made (for Google). Also, they might be afraid that generic blocking lists might be circulated and applied by publishers no matter what. That would shut out some advertisers almost completely, and this might hurt revenue.

netmeg

6:45 pm on Jun 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

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You also might people blocking advertisers for perceived low value clicks (legitimate or not) That could leave Google with a lot of low value clicks in their inventory, pissed off advertisers, and so on.

swa66

10:08 pm on Jun 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

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You also might people blocking advertisers for perceived low value clicks (legitimate or not) That could leave Google with a lot of low value clicks in their inventory, pissed off advertisers, and so on.

So .... by that logic would e.g. ebay buyers that don't want to bid more than the reserve set by the seller get pissed off?
There's a simple solution: "make your offer more attractive dear advertiser, perhaps you'll find more publisher willing to take on your ads if you do ...".