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5:56 am on Apr 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I would really love to see some AdSense features somehow incorporated into Google Analytics. There are currently some AdWords features in Analytics, so why not AdSense as well?

This would be VERY useful to me.

11:27 am on Apr 15, 2008 (gmt 0)



Here's a great feature I'd like to see. :)
Quit nagging me about consolidating my accounts. It's annoying on the level of a panhandler who won't stop pestering, no matter how many times you tell them no.

I agree. It is way beyond *ridiculous* by now and realy needs to stop.

11:44 am on Apr 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Sellers determining the asking price and buyers determining of the bidding price seems to work well enough for the stock market.

If I am not mistaken Google has previously maintained that adwords is an "auction" If it truely were an auction you would expect that suppliers (publishers) would have a role in shaping the market price for a given commodity (ad).

Far be it from having free market conditions we also have the intervention of 'Smart Pricing' (but that's another thread)

4:22 pm on Apr 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I would like the option of setting a preference for the ad setup page - I never use the wizard, I always want the single page option, but when I'm creating quantities of ads I have to keep clicking on that again and again and again. Let me set my preference ONCE to the single page, and not have to deal with it again!
5:05 pm on Apr 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I'd like to see a new type of Adlink (offered as an option):
A box of four relevant text ads would appear when you mouse over each Adlink topic.
When the cursor is moved outside the box the ads are hidden.
11:03 pm on Apr 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I would like to be able to block ads based on keywords, not urls. That would mean I could block ads that had the words 'sexy', 'adult', 'singles', 'divorce(d)', 'widow(ed)' and others that have nothing to do with my site, but keep trashing it. I end up displaying these ads because the word 'free' and others are part of my site content. It would be easier just to block a few keywords, than to block hundreds of urls and much more effective at keeping unsuitable content off my site(s). There is something very wrong, when a b2b website gets bombarded with filth, just because some of my clients offer "FREE shipping" or "FREE price quote". They have nothing in common with "FREE acess to thousands of sexy singles". It is like those "FREE HOT sexy singles" ads showing up on a page for "FREE HOT sauce recipe". Why in the world was this featured not addressed LONG ago? I would gladly just settle for "recipe" ads, and avoid ads with the words "free" and "hot".

This is why I like one of my cpm ad servers the best. I have to preapprove ads before they run. Granted, I have to go in on regular basis to add more advertisers. But, it better than having inappropriate ads on my site running off my clients.

11:57 pm on Apr 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I would like to be able to block ads based on keywords, not urls. That would mean I could block ads that had the words 'sexy', 'adult', 'singles', 'divorce(d)', 'widow(ed)' and...

Think we asked for it before, no answers but silence so far.

12:26 am on Apr 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I would like to be able to block ads based on keywords, not urls.

Keywords ,url and advertiser filters would all help publishers however you might as well forget it because it isn't going to happen.

9:50 am on Apr 22, 2008 (gmt 0)

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"1 cent per click is a joke! There should be a minimum of 5 cent.

IMO 1 cent is an insult and 5 cents is a joke. Let each publisher set own minimum bids. "

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That's my opinion too.

Many suggestions posted here are very welcome, to let the Adsense system perform better for publishers.

But if payout drops to 0,01 what is the sense of all other measures?

This would be the most important improvement for me : let us set a miminum bid for a click. Even if it's 0.05, it would be better than i get now.

I'd rather get 1000 clicks at 0.05 a day ( and let the ad space be empty when no more ads are available), than 5000 clicks at 0,01.

Also the fact that the dollar is going down like hell ( compared to the euro) means that we in Europe get always less for the same amount of dollars. So what is a click of 0,01$ worth ? 0,006 euro !

11:13 am on Apr 22, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I would like to be able to set a minimum click value so as to make proper use of my google_alternate_ad_url settings.

Yes, I can just pull AdSense and replace it with my alternative (hand-keyed Amazon links), and I've done that on many pages. But it would be nicer to have AdSense, falling through to the alternate option when it's not working so well.

(Channels only give me a rough idea of poorly performing pages, and performance varies over time, so pulling AdSense completely is a blunt approach to picking the best option.)

11:23 am on Apr 22, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Funny. Has anyone noticed how unpopular this thread has become? The first thread created 102 messages in about two weeks; this thread has now 40 messages in about three weeks. Not too long, and we'll have our annual "Dear Santa GOOG" thread, as every year.

And "the new ASA" wanted to collect our feature requests on a weekly basis? LOL.

12:14 pm on Apr 22, 2008 (gmt 0)

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One possible way to improve the ads blocking issue could be:

- Improve the Google AdSense Preview Tools in order to show exactly the ads currently showing in that page, not like now as samples ones and to give the opportunity to review it, as Ads Review Centre, and to block it if you are already login in you Google account.

Sorry if this has been mentioned previously.

12:37 pm on Apr 22, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I think it is an insult to publishers and visitors for advertisers to pay out .01 for advertising space on anything except a free classfied paper. In the brick mortar world a magazine, newspaper, newsletter would not even take such a proposal seriously. Why Google allows such a practice is just weird.

I don't mind the penny jar profit increase its all money but the problem with AdSense is that it is high maintenance. Set it and forget it is a myth. You have to stay on the ads because of:

1. Inappropriate ads sneaking into your site (what happened to Google "don't be evil concept?")
2. Off topic ads
3. Junk
4. Testing site placement to see what works best
4. Etc...etc...

Would be nice if you could set and forget. But that is not the reality. So instead of being able to concentrate most of your attention on your content and other key activity you waste a lot of time maintenancing what Google claims they take care of. The point of AdSense is to work like an ad dept. so you can concentrate on your publication.

Having been an art illustrator (offline) in the past I've worked with a number of small publications creating ads etc and had my own newsletter. I would laugh at an advertiser proposing to pay me .01 to take up space in my publication. I have never seen a system that functions like this. Nothing you can do about it except to build up your site to the point where you can seek out other options.

5:18 pm on Apr 22, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I'd like more URL channels, at least 500, preferably unlimited.
6:12 pm on Apr 22, 2008 (gmt 0)

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ASA gone missing...
6:15 pm on Apr 22, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Breakdown of CPM per Country...
6:58 pm on Apr 22, 2008 (gmt 0)

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>>If I am not mistaken Google has previously maintained that adwords is an "auction"

Not! Auctions have minimum starting / reserve prices.

>>Far be it from having free market conditions we also have the intervention of 'Smart Pricing' (but that's another thread)

Heh, the equivalent of the auctioneer saying "oh I'm sorry, you bid way too much for that, forget the seller (by whom I was hired), here let me give it to you for half that..." Such an auctioneer would be run out of town on a rail.

AnneJ - We used to have the same problem. Try setting the start and end on very tight regions mentioning ONLY the OVERALL topic words (i.e. fabric, cloth). If that doesn't work, try blocking all the sites which come up under the song lyrics, until G finds 4 or 8 of the good ads that are appropriate. Once that happens you should be able to delete the inappropriate ads from your filter and they should remain stable.

How about an * indicator on reports that shows when click counts are significantly lagging behind impression counts (or vice versa), for days like today, so we can determine if our "optimization" is actually working/not working vs. a counting delay on G's part. Currently the only way we have of determining this is by MANUALLY calculating the PPC (which Adsense also does not show) to realize the CTR is constant and thus the impressions or clicks are PROBABLY misreporting... or not?

[edited by: MikeNoLastName at 7:12 pm (utc) on April 22, 2008]

12:22 am on Apr 24, 2008 (gmt 0)



How about an ASA that actually writes messages and responds to messages in the forum? What a miracle that would be!
12:46 am on Apr 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

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ArtistMike, good or bad, Google does not discuss requestd feature merrits or drawbacks, ASA already said she is monotoring and noting requests, this is a one way deal, if you came to this thread execting to have a chat with ASA you're in the wrong place, try Pubcon.
12:52 am on Apr 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Perhaps we need to summarize all requests and repost them each week/month/whatever ratio is used as first post with a few hundred points in them.

We might even hold a poll to see what's most asked.

Honestly if GOOG wants to know they have hundreds of ways to know, the good part of a forum such as this is we can join forces in demanding things from Google. Such demands will not get organized by Google, that's up to us.

And it seems the minimum price per click could become something many can stand behind.

2:26 am on Apr 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I'd like to be able to send an invitation to an advertiser, via Google, to invite the advertiser to target my site.

FarmBoy

5:40 am on Apr 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

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And "the new ASA" wanted to collect our feature requests on a weekly basis? LOL.

Yeah. LOL

6:37 am on Apr 24, 2008 (gmt 0)



ArtistMike, good or bad, Google does not discuss requestd feature merrits or drawbacks, ASA already said she is monotoring and noting requests, this is a one way deal, if you came to this thread execting to have a chat with ASA you're in the wrong place, try Pubcon.
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If ASA wants feedback it would seem to make it more precise and clear if ASA would respond with what ASA understands the needs to be. If ASA's understanding of the request is not as requested then corrections can be made. As it is now there is no real communication because it is indeed "ONE WAY".

The process of communication is a "TWO WAY" process.

There is something called "Active Listening" where you respond to the speaker with what YOU think they are saying, and if there are errors in the communication the speaker can make corrections ... as it is now, we can only hope that ASA understands the needs and desires of the people in this forum. ONCE again, Google does not communicate in any meaningful way, and ASA is continuing that tradition.

Mike

8:29 am on Apr 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

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The process of communication is a "TWO WAY" process.

Not necessarily.

Device A may send data to device B without device B "talking to" device A. Typical scenario is wireless temperature sensors. They send their data off constantly, and the data is received by the weather station, but the data is not ackknowledged by the weather station.

Yet, the weather station can display the weather from the wireless station perfectly well.

Ah, I guess to Google, we're just sensors. (Adsenseors?)

4:22 pm on Apr 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Please be assured that I am monitoring this thread, noting all requests, and communicating them to the relevant teams. If I require any clarification on a specific issue, I will be sure to ask.

We appreciate you taking the time to provide us with your feedback.

5:58 pm on Apr 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Thanks ASA, but it is possible to know, from the relevant teams, if our proposal can not be done, due to A, B or C, can be done but for C reason is not possible so far and these will be implemented during a reasonable period of time.

In order to feel that Google is there we need some kind of feedback about the final decision of our, lets say, top ten wishes. Is it possible? When?

Thanks

6:09 pm on Apr 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

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They don't give that out for the advertisers; I sincerely doubt it'll ever be available for the publishers.
12:39 am on Apr 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

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They don't give that out for the advertisers; I sincerely doubt it'll ever be available for the publishers.

So, it is possible that more often than not we are simply wasting time unknowingly going over old issues that Google has long since rejected.

12:53 am on Apr 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

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It'd be interesting to see a list of features we've asked for since AdSense started, and see how many had come to be.
2:29 am on Apr 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

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It'd be interesting to see a list of features we've asked for since AdSense started, and see how many had come to be.

I would expect that it would be be a very short one.

It would also be interesting to see a shortlist of the few most popular requests pending.

[edited by: Scurramunga at 2:32 am (utc) on April 25, 2008]

8:32 am on Apr 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

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It'd be interesting to see a list of features we've asked for since AdSense started, and see how many had come to be.

They certainly fulfilled the request for improved meaningful communication when they introduced the "Optimization Tips"; to prove the seriousness of their desire for a healthy communication process, they introduced the New ASA here. If I were Google, I'd ask, "what more could these guys [the publishers - ed.] possibly want?"

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