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Adsense Tip for those who SPAM the system

Adsense SPAMMING

         

alexandr2005

7:34 am on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I know a lot of people like to walk the line by placing google adsense ads to the MAX. I understand you may be desperate to make a buck. We all want to be rich, dont we :) , but the problem is: as a web surfer, whenever i come across one of those adsense filled websites, i dont care if your website is offering product at a chip price or if you have very informative website, it doesnt look atractive--to be honest, it looks CHEAP!
People place those ads in the most trickiest way humanly imaginable. Why? Dont do that. You will piss of a lot of people and even google, lets hope not. You dont want to piss off google if they come across your website.
Remmember, the ad and the website itself will look a LOT more attractive when you have those tiny squire ads. Place max of two ads, and one image ad. Thats it!
Sometimes i get puzzled when i come accross some website that sells EBOOK for example and they have ADSENSE! Here is my question: Do you want to sell your ebook or do you want to redirect people and earn one penny when they click on that ad and go somewhere else?
Ahhh..anyway... thats my 2 cents on this .

[edited by: jatar_k at 11:52 am (utc) on Sep. 6, 2007]
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Visit Thailand

7:42 am on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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alexandr2005. You should remove your links before a mod does (read the TOS).

I am curious why are so many new members suddenly being so very negative about Google AdSense etc. All very suspicious to me. It is almost as if there is a campaign out to discredit AS, which does not really make any sense as the ads would only be replaced by other probably and most likely less targetted or less interesting ads.

[edited by: Visit_Thailand at 7:43 am (utc) on Sep. 6, 2007]

alexandr2005

7:43 am on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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OH?
we are not allowed to post them?
Thanks for the heads up. i will! :)

alexandr2005

7:50 am on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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thailand. wow. all the way from there?
uh. i am not negative about adsense. Infact adsense is amazing the best thing that ever happened to webmasters all over the world! Too bad many people abuse the system to the level when google now, gets pissed off at every little thing any good webmaster would do, if they violate by tiny measure..that webmaster still gets punished, sometimes its not very fair.

HuskyPup

10:56 am on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)



if they violate by tiny measure..that webmaster still gets punished, sometimes its not very fair.

I've been in AdSense since almost since its inception and it is extremely rare that an experienced webmaster falls foul of the T&C's since ALL will have read them thoroughly.

They're very simple and very fair, it's only those trying to game the system who fall out with the programme and the "occasional" one who genuinely did make a technical error.

Sure I've had reason to complain about my falling EPC earlier this year however since 1st June clampdown I have seen a dramatically pleasing improvement.

One thing webmasters should remember since many seem to come here for dubious AdSense advice, the AdSense team are there to help and advise. Whenever I have had an ad implementation doubt I have clarified with AdSense prior to going sitewide, after all, it's easy enought to link them to a demo page page of one's intentions and if one has not the pateince to wait 24~48 hours for a response then maybe the vagaries of AdSense are not for them?

Good luck!

FourDegreez

2:46 pm on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I hate stumbling across pages that are spammed up with AdSense, as these tend to discredit the program--people begin to associate AdSense with junk and get-rich-quick schemers. More than half of the times I've heard of someone installing ad blocking software, the reason was to "stick it to" those spammer publishers. When pressed, many say they have no problem with responsible AdSense placement and would not otherwise block it. So basically... the spammers hurt us all.

It would be neat if Google had an algorithm for estimating how much above the fold real estate was taken up by AdSense (or do manual reviews), and warn the publisher if the percentage is too high.

If you reading this are a publisher who uses AdSense in this way, please reconsider.

jhood

5:59 pm on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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The underlying assumption in these posts is that readers are stupid and must be protected by Google. Readers are, in many cases, a lot smarter than Webmasters. But leaving that aside for a moment, most Web surfers are smart enough to surf away from sites that have lousy content or are too cluttered with ads.

What's "too cluttered?" Like beauty, it's in the eye of the beholder.

You could argue that AdSense is the nearly perfect expression of the free market concept. Ultimate power rests with the consumer, who the choice of whether to linger at a particular site, whether to sign up for newslettrs, buy products or services or click on any of the ads.

It's not up to Google to make this choice for consumers. Webmasters must, therefore, compete vigorously to provide the best experience they can for as many readers as possible.

europeforvisitors

6:23 pm on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)



It's not up to Google to make this choice for consumers.

Actually, Google does have the right to make whatever rules it thinks are necessary to protect its advertisers (who are paying by the click) and to ensure that consumers don't become blind, indifferent, or skeptical toward AdSense ads.

jhood

8:14 pm on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Well, of course, but my point is that Webmasters should not look to Google to protect them from themselves. Those who build good tasteful sites that do what they promise are, in all likelihood, going to do better than those who try to game the system.

It's possible to stay within Google's guidelines and still have a junky site.

WiseWebDude

8:30 pm on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Google does have the right to make whatever rules it thinks are necessary to protect its advertisers (who are paying by the click) and to ensure that consumers don't become blind, indifferent, or skeptical toward AdSense ads.

Too late, people are already becoming that way with all these parked domains. I don't know ONE person who hasn't told me to my face they hate that junk. It's already building. People are tired of their time being wasted by having to run around those parked pages and endless ads slapped in every crack. A LOT of sites are really difficult to move around anymore. They aren't becoming "blind" to them, they are becoming skeptical from what I see. This is what scares me the most and will hurt us all in the end.

Edge

8:53 pm on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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"I hate stumbling across pages that are spammed up with AdSense, as these tend to discredit the program"

Ultimately the discredit goes to Google, as they allow this to propogate and continue.

[edited by: Edge at 8:53 pm (utc) on Sep. 6, 2007]

alexandr2005

8:56 pm on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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How the heck do i quote someone? where is that function? grrr.
Anyway:
WiseWebDude thank you.
I agree. I can see this effecting all of us(webmasters) in the future.

WiseWebDude

9:01 pm on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Alexander,

No doubt! To quote just use: [ quote ]stuff quoted here[ / quote]

but, make sure it is all together though, I broke it to show.

Here is a link as well: [webmasterworld.com...]

[edited by: WiseWebDude at 9:02 pm (utc) on Sep. 6, 2007]

alexandr2005

9:05 pm on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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No doubt!

Thank you for the link to the codes. THis goodie i saved as my favourite now. :O)

WiseWebDude

9:15 pm on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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NP, it would be easier if they had a WYSIWYG editor, but I guess it does keep a lot of junk out though.

europeforvisitors

9:42 pm on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)



They aren't becoming "blind" to them, they are becoming skeptical from what I see. This is what scares me the most and will hurt us all in the end.

I'm concerned, too--at least intinctively--but I also know that Google does research, and Google may have found that the average Tom, Dick, and Harry isn't as sensitive or skeptical as some of us are. It does seem unlikely that Google would let a billion-dollar-per-quarter advertising product erode in value if research showed that consumers were unhappy.

For what it's worth, my own site's average clickthrough rate was slightly higher in August, 2007 than in August of 2005 or 2006, so if there's been any general decline in the willingness of readers to click on relevant ads, I haven't seen it.

farmboy

9:57 pm on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Sometimes i get puzzled when i come accross some website that sells EBOOK for example and they have ADSENSE! Here is my question: Do you want to sell your ebook or do you want to redirect people and earn one penny when they click on that ad and go somewhere else?

That seems to assume the publisher only earns one penny, as opposed to 25 pennies, 50 pennies, 100 pennies or more.

I personally have 3 sites where I sell an eBook and I have AdSense on the page. I have the benefit of several years of various testing and tweaking.

I've found that my overall income is higher with certain AdSense displays in a certain location on the page.

Further, I've found that in some situations, having AdSense on the page actually increases the sales of the eBook. I can't say why - maybe it has something to do with that theory of the presence of "Google's endorsement" adding credibility to the site.

FarmBoy

WiseWebDude

9:59 pm on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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It does seem unlikely that Google would let a billion-dollar-per-quarter advertising product erode in value if research showed that consumers were unhappy.

Good point, that is true. While I have the utmost faith in Google, I also see some spam sites that do get through and Google never does anything. I have been watching one for over a month. A few of us are testing Google's response...so far not a peep. That scares me a little now. Remember Enron? I just worry with all I am seeing to be sure. I pray there is really someone alive up there at the Googleplex, LOL.

:)

alexandr2005

10:13 pm on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Remember Enron? I just worry with all I am seeing to be sure. I pray there is really someone alive up there at the Googleplex, LOL

Oh how can we forget our dear Enron :)
I stronly believe, that if anything was to happen to google(ex big policy changes, very strict adsense rules, program becomes limited to webmasters, or only websites with certain PAGE RANK will be able to use it, or certain autority, or if google crushes all together(lets hope this day will NEVER COME), anyway, WHATEVER the outcome, webmasters simply would migrate(like birds) to yahoo or any other major company that will replace the dominant GOOGLE :). Who knows, maybe microsoft will have better system? But again, loopholes are everywhere, and if people can expose them , they will. I mean look at ALL of Bill Gate's Operating systems, flawless? far from it.

NEWS FLASH everyone: haha: Google is already starting to crack down on "MIDDLEMAN", you know , those Darn Spammers! Pages filled with nothing more then Google ads with almost no content or even if its relivant , GOOGLES NEW RULE" we dont care if your website relivent or not, if your goal is to profit from your ads, will ban you" NOT THE EXACT wording, but sounds just right ;)

Anyway. People will continue to abuse the system.
Future is very uncertain.
For all of us!