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Is this common practice, or is the percentage that Google gets something that is negotiable?
How I understood it is you aren't allowed to disclose how much Google is getting, but you could still negotiate Google's cut with Google, are these assumptions wrong?
EFV: I understand your enthusiasm for Google, and I am fully aware of the fact that the % received by each participant in the joint venture is by no means the most important consideration.
Oh, please. My "enthusiasm for Google," as you put it, is irrelevant. (It's also inaccurate, since AdSense is merely one of my revenue partners--and not the most important one by a long shot.)
As for the question of whether Google is using its "market power" to keep its revenue share secret, it's worth noting that YPN isn't revealing its revenue share, either. In any case, percentages don't pay the mortgage or the grocery bills: The number that matters is the size of the payment you receive at the end of the month. (Still, as Farmboy suggests, there may be a few clueless publishers who think their payout percentage is more important than their monthly earnings.)
Oh, please. My "enthusiasm for Google," as you put it, is irrelevant. (It's also inaccurate, since AdSense is merely one of my revenue partners--and not the most important one by a long shot.
EVF: not to get off-topic (and if you don't mind answering), but what do you consider the most important revenue source for you personally? Is it ads sold directly? Affiliate programs? Or something else?
EVF: not to get off-topic (and if you don't mind answering), but what do you consider the most important revenue source for you personally? Is it ads sold directly? Affiliate programs? Or something else?
I would caution EFV not to answer because there's a fine line between being sharing and helpful with other webmasters and offering up a competitive advantage as his niche on the web is very well known.
I personally have diversity which is a combination of AdSense, direct advertisers, lead referrals and affiliates. All contribute a substantial portion of my monthly income and my AdSense is approaching, but not quite reaching although close, the UPS club levels.
Which one does the best?
That I won't disclose as it's the advantage of being a competitive webmaster and you'll need to try them all and see which one works best for you.
YMMV
That's all - I wasn't trying to pry - it's just that his phrase about AdSense not being that important to him piqued my interest.
I hope I didn't come across as a spy.
Nah, but there are a few (more than a few) that might be watching and lurking that are his competitors and I'd hate to see them all know where to find the most gold based on his hard work.
Actually, the reason for me asking EFV was that I think I have a pretty decent idea of what his traffic is like and given that, I'd like to know what publishers of THAT SIZE think of the revenue split among AdSense/DirectSelling/AffiliatePrograms.
Not sure SIZE is the issue as not everything works the same for all sites,
You would think affiliate programs would work well on my site, very targeted traffic, 1M visitors a month, and most of them don't pay at all. I have a few that do OK, but most just don't which is amusing compared to my wife's low traffic site with huge affiliate sales.
However, I sell a lot of direct advertising and people that buy it are very happy with the results.
Go figure.
So I tossed all the non-paying affiliates and let people buy the space directly ;)
