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June 2007 Optimization Report

Same as past 2 months

         

greatstart

1:57 pm on Jun 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Placing more than one ad unit on a page often generates more revenue.

You may be filtering ads that monetize well on your site.

Did anyone else see the same thing for this month?

stuartmcdonald

2:06 pm on Jun 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

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All I have is the April Report -- they didn't bother to suggest anything since. Struggling to see the benefit in this little "feature"

malachite

3:01 pm on Jun 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Yep. Exactly the same useless rubbish for the third month in a row. And still no way to get rid of the darned things, so looks like that page is going to be reallllly long by the end of the year. :(

zett

3:17 pm on Jun 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Yup, same here. How embarrassing for a company like Google. By now it's nothing more than a bad joke. How can anyone by their right mind put the same tips in there for three months in a row? How? Can't they afford some junior product manager any longer? Or an intern? I mean, it does not take an PhD to see that this is probably a stupid idea.

Sometimes I really wonder what's going on at The Plex.

europeforvisitors

4:18 pm on Jun 2, 2007 (gmt 0)



How embarrassing for a company like Google. By now it's nothing more than a bad joke. How can anyone by their right mind put the same tips in there for three months in a row?

Have you considered the possibility that Google may know more than you do about how many publishers have (or haven't) read and acted on those optimization tips? Just because you or I may not like the tips doesn't mean they're a bad idea. It would be nice to have a "delete tip" option that worked, though.

By the way, if you're really bothered by the optimization tips, you can always use the simpler and cleaner "Advanced Reports" view.

Eazygoin

4:20 pm on Jun 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Well, if it helps atal, I just got the 'you may have URL's in your filter which are restricting your earnings potential'

The only URL's in my filter are my own sites so my own ads don't show on my sites!

But then it does specify it's generated automatically, so I guess it does help some people sometimes :-)

Hobbs

4:54 pm on Jun 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Placing more than one ad unit on a page often generates more revenue

Google is absolutely right!

That is exactly why I recently inserted new ads from other networks at the bottom of my pages.. you know, the type of networks whose ads if unclicked won't lower my ctr and epc resulting in a flood of low life ads ..

Can't wait for the July Optimization Report, can't they just send this year's quota all at once?

europeforvisitors

4:55 pm on Jun 2, 2007 (gmt 0)



Let's just be glad that our pages aren't being optimized automatically. :-)

zett

4:57 pm on Jun 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

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EFV,

Have you considered the possibility that Google may know more than you do about how many publishers have (or haven't) read and acted on those optimization tips?

Exactly because Google know more than I do, I would have expected that they can determine: ah, this guy has read all the tips. And oh, he has emptied his filter list two or three times after reading the tip. But -uh- he has filled the filter again after that. That tip seems to have not worked for him.

Just because you or I may not like the tips doesn't mean they're a bad idea.

It's not about "liking" the tips. The way this tool has been implemented is - I repeat - quite embarrassing for a company like Google. We are not talking about a startup company running a beta site with a couple of real life users. We are talking about a program that contributes how much to Google's bottom line? How much is Google worth? We are talking about a company that stands for "The Internet" for many people. Yes, for such a company, the current implementation of this tool is embarrassing.

It would be nice to have a "delete tip" option that worked, though.

Yes. Even a junior product manager might have come up with this suggestion. I do not get why Google did not get this basic requirement right? We are not talking about rocket science here.

potentialgeek

7:50 pm on Jun 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

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You may be filtering ads that monetize well on your site.

Fine. I'll add ads... as soon as G guarantees they won't be from MFAs... and I won't get smartpriced (further).

Better yet, if I add them, G can show me which ads appeared and how they performed. Then I will know if its advice was sound.

Let's hope Optimization Report 2.0 is a significant upgrade. Maybe it could actually send some meaningful data and analysis on which it based its advice.

p/g

inactivist

9:23 pm on Jun 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Just checked my AS account; haven't yet been blessed with any POW (Pearls Of Wisdom) from the kind folks at the 'plex.

inactivist

9:24 pm on Jun 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I mean, it does not take an PhD to see that this is probably a stupid idea.

No, but it might take a non-PhD to see it. :D I've worked with some sharp PhDs, and some not-so-sharp ones, product-sense-wise.

europeforvisitors

9:48 pm on Jun 2, 2007 (gmt 0)



It's not about "liking" the tips. The way this tool has been implemented is - I repeat - quite embarrassing for a company like Google.

Well, Google doesn't seem to be embarrassed, so we're likely to be stuck with the optimization tips for a while--at least until so many monthly tips accumulate on the page that somebody at Google decides they're getting in the way.

I'd have to say, too, that in the overall scheme of things, the presence of optimization tips on the AdSense reports page isn't very important. I'm more concerned with the numbers that I see. :-)

DamonHD

10:04 pm on Jun 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

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EFV, for me the tips take just enough space to push all the links that I normally click on to just below the fold, forcing me to scroll, so there is a disproportionate penalty to my proto-RSI from this admittedly small space used...

PowerUp

10:29 am on Jun 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I have removed all my Adsense codes from my site in May. I received a June optimization report. It says, "After an automatic review of your sites, we think you......"

Why are they still reviewing my site after I removed the Adsense codes?

Eazygoin

10:53 am on Jun 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Logic says that if you haven't closed your account,then it would be no surprise to be told you need more ads to maximize revenue, as it's an automated system! :-)

chikung

4:53 am on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I have a same as I received last two months " about emptying my filter bag". Actually I emptied for a while but that turned to be bad idea as I started getting same ads that I didn't want to display on my site.

After 1st June, I replaced my old filetr bag with new that contains very few urls as compared to old one. Still they send me the same optimization tip.

This means G doesn't want even a single url in the filter bag.

Now suppose I wish to filter shopping and job sites perticularly, I will keep on getting the same report every month.

If filtering urls seems to be the only problem, why not they remove that facility completely.

alephh

12:40 pm on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

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When you see 12-year-old kids doing wonderful database-driven websites, then it's really embarrassing for Google to make totally worthless trash features, IMO :-D

And it's not that the tips are worthless for most, they are, in fact, dangerous - removing carefully chosen blocked urls will often destroy earnings. If Google wants to destroy our earnings, why don't they just ban us all? ;-D

They could at least target the "basic tips" to basic users. How many publishers with CTR over 30% will benefit the tips currently available.

And the fact that one of the most useless adsense related text in the world currently available is shown to you every single time you visit adsense is pretty maddening experience.

netmeg

2:00 pm on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Hunh; all I have still is the April Optimization - never got May or June. Just the same, I dunno why they can't stick a "dismiss" link there so that once you've seen it, you can get rid of it. That's how they handle alerts in the AdWords console, so *someone* there knows how to do it.

farmboy

3:30 pm on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

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My June tip is "You may be filtering ads that monetize well on your site."

This has inspired me to start a weight-loss tips site.

When a visitor logs in, he/she will get a message that reads, "You may be eating things that prevent you from losing weight."

FarmBoy

moTi

4:28 pm on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

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this "feature" is really ridiculous. so has anyone actually received an optimization report which reads different? what did they advise you?

DamonHD

6:27 pm on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

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"We advise you that your account is closed?"

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Rgds

Damon

Hobbs

10:27 am on Jun 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

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It's poof, gone, no reports for you mister, next!

"There are no recent messages to display"

not sure if that's because I clicked the dismiss link

inactivist

10:54 am on Jun 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

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My old reports disappeared, then reappeared, and are now gone again. Something's up at the 'plex. :D

Hobbs

1:49 pm on Jun 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Spoke too soon,

All 3 reports are back

Google, stop teasing!

inactivist

1:23 pm on Jun 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Yup - all my old tips are still displayed.

I'm wondering if clicking the "Dismiss this tip" action just tells G not to give you *future* reports with that tip? That's what happened to me - since dismissing the one 'tip' (about filtering ads that may pay well) I've not received anything for June '07, but the old ones (April, May) still show in the list...

User interfaces are not G's strong point, it seems.

Sigh...