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a) The visitor of your web site (the end consumer)?
b) The advertiser who places ads through Google on your site?
c) Google who pay you for ad space you provide to Google?
For me, I would tend to (a) - if I disappoint my visitors, the whole enterprise is doomed.
How about you?
However my site is, in the first instance, written with my readers in mind. My customers come second to my readers.
If I ever have to choose between them, I will tell the customer to go hang. As long as I keep writing the site for readers, there will be more customers around the next corner.
a) The visitor of your web site (the end consumer)?
b) The advertiser who places ads through Google on your site?
c) Google who pay you for ad space you provide to Google?
Like everybody else "a" (for the most part), but really it's all three when you get down to it.
I've bought quite a few usability books, as well as studied quite a few sites (hundreds), and basically I try to create sites that accomplish the following for visitors:
1) Easy to navigate
2) Provide lots of relevant content
3) Make it easy for people to find the products they are after, for sale (ads)
I believe if you focuse on usability, you help out the visitor of your site, as well as the Google bots (whether they be Google.com proper or the Google Adbots) in their indexing.
I believe if you provide lots of relevant content, and make it easy for people to buy the product (AdSense, Chitika, Amazon, tc.), then you help the advertiser.
And the answer is whoever is suffering most jumps to become my top priority till thing level up again.
When I first started my site, in the design and planning stage, (a) the visitors where the top priority, when my site was launched and growing traffic was at hand (c) Google and other search engines was my priority, when AdSense came along, (b) the advertiser took precedence.
Right now it is a balance, the ideal answer is (a) the visitors, but when the money suffers, I'll give b & c more of my time, when it is time to pay school or rent .. (d) my family is my priority.
So it all depends on when you are asking.
I whole-heartedly agree. But now you have it, if your site was for blue widgets, it would demain your site to display ads for pornogrphic material - as is happening to a current publisher - would it not? Therefore, now you have monetised, it is important to maintain a certain level of professionalism, and with that comes keeping your advertising medium "happy". Therefore, ~IMO, the three go hand in hand.
You have not lived until you have done something for someone who can never repay you
B: is GOOG's customer, not mine, as a matter of fact if I look at my banned list there are quite a few I don't even want as customer. I wish I could be more far more selective in who's in there. If they were mine I'd need more control over who they are.
C: might be a short term goal to keep them happy, but the sites have been around since before them so there is no absolute need to have them, I can always go back if needed (it'll reduce profits, but not far enough to make me loose money on the sites.)
I agree with everyone who puts their readers first before all other parties - but unless you are running your publication on a subscription-based model, the readership cannot be described as "the customer" in any real sense, can it?
unless you are running your publication on a subscription-based model, the readership cannot be described as "the customer" in any real sense, can it?
Not according to the usual definition of a "customer."
Why bother discussing the obvious?
Actually, there is an answer, by comparison and for competitive advantage. In the real business world, the leaders of a particular industry rarely want a monopoly. They'd rather have competitors around by which they can be measured, ones which make them look better.
So, if there are people out there who don't understand what they're doing, all the better for those who do.
Carry on.
a) The visitor of your web site (the end consumer)?
b) The advertiser who places ads through Google on your site?
c) Google who pay you for ad space you provide to Google?
The visitor is the one who clicks the ads, they return to the site and click more ads.
Google does not actually pay for space. They pay for clicks .. and the visitor clicks.
While Google and the advertiser may be important to me, my focus must be on the user.
Who is the customer of, say, a popular car magazine. It all depends on who you talk to, but in the end, subscribers, newsstand purchasers, and advertisers are all customers because the publication is 'selling' something to each, and each must be satisfied in order for the venture to remain viable.
Depending on a site's purpose and intended audience, it can be the reader alone, or the advertiser and the reader! But never, just the advertiser, IMO.
Farmer ------------- Publisher
Sheep ------------- Traffic
Green Pastures ----- Content
Big bad wolf -------- MFA
End Consumer ------ Advertiser
Farmer's market ---- Google
So is the publisher raising sheep and feeding them content while the Advertisers are sipping cappuccino at the farmer's market? Or the Big bad wolf ready to pounce and bite your visitors? Hmmm this calls for more thought...
surprisingly, google didn't play that much of a role in my considerations. to be sure, they are the ones that pay out the money - but as long as you have a solid website and play by the rules, they rather stay in the background as your ad broker - aside from serp ranking and optimization aspects, which is another issue. furthermore, adsense is extremely important, but one can also deal with other programs if needed or with the advertisers directly.
i've found out that i have changed my perspective in the last years, namely from a) visitor to b) advertiser.
the reason is, that i deliver fresh content in a continual manner, i'm pretty stable with traffic and market share with my established sites and i came to know my visitors better since those years. now the focus turns more and more to the advertiser.
the limiting factor is time. time management is a big task for me. so, what i want to address is that if you work hard for years, hardly any spare time, you question your unconditional user orientation. after all, you work your a$$ off while they consume your content for free - no matter if they click on an ad or buy anything from your advertising partners. they pay you attention, they don't pay you money - only indirectly.
for sure, readers keep your site going - but if you got free content, one time or another you have to put aside your user subjection at least a little bit to actually live.
No doubt.
But that still does not make "A" the customer.
The customer is the person who pays for a service.
Perhaps we have established that online publications are not operated in the first instance for their customers?
Therefore ours is one of the few industries where the customer is not the most important consideration.
Perhaps we have established that online publications are not operated in the first instance for their customers?Therefore ours is one of the few industries where the customer is not the most important consideration.
Along with:
- Advertising-supported TV broadcasting.
- Advertising-supported radio broadcasting.
- Free newspapers.
- Free magazines.
- Any other free media that I might have overlooked.
b) The advertisers whose ads appear on my website are my customers. They are the ones who buy my traffic.
c) Google is the agent that pays me on behalf of my customers. So they collect a commission.
As a business, do you put your product first? Or do you put your customer first? Without a customer, the product is useless. Without a product, there will be no customers. In that respect, it seems like a rather silly question! Both are absolutely 100% important!