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Should we get confrontational with spammers while we run AdSense!

Best practice to deal with spammers without jeopardizing AdSense account

         

cvas

3:23 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I have this fellow that is submitting spam to a public event calendar. I could deny him access to the form based on IPs that he is using, or even confront him with some message with the intent of discouraging him. On a second thought I don't want to anger him either, he could click attack and create more problems. How do you normally deal with this kind of situation?

celgins

4:04 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Unless you enjoy spam, it may be best to keep him from accessing your calendar. No one likes spam and if it continues to clutter your calendar, other interested users may become leery about their own continued visits.

If you already have access to his IP address, you have at least one piece of information you could report if a click attack did occur.

cvas

4:41 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I quarantine his content so it does not appear public, reason why he's insisting with repeatedly posting basically a bunch of spam links. His frustration kind of worries me. Is my AdSense at the mercy of this individual?

martinibuster

5:17 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Just ban his IP and move along. Spammers are interested in posting links, more often than not with a bot. They are not interested in revenge. It's all business, no passion. Revenge is not generally part of spammer culture. So ban the IP and move along.

cvas

8:16 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Never thought of banning the IPs for entire site, I was planning to restrict only the use of the form.

Hobbs

8:22 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

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reason why he's insisting with repeatedly posting basically a bunch of spam links.

Or it could be a spam bot not only targeting you but targeting any hole it can find in the wild. Lookup the links being posted and you might find them listed elsewhere on other poorly managed web sites.

Never thought of banning the IPs for entire site

I have many class C's banned, a couple Class B IPs banned, I even have a whole county banned from seeing my web site, helps me seep a little better.

koan

8:35 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Revenge is not generally part of spammer culture.

Maybe web spammers are dispassionate, but email spammers are known for taking revenge on anyone disrupting their business when reporting them to their hosts with the famous joe-jobs and cartooneys (threats of legal suits). Lets not underestimate the lack of morals of these sociopaths.

But yeah, I think if one were to block web spammers by IP addresses (I do have a spambot trap), they just move on to better targets. I'd say the best method, though, is to use tools that won't let automated submissions of links to begin with, such as, for example, "captchas", or active moderation.

cvas

9:49 pm on Feb 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I was also thinking of inserting a challenge number painted on a picture with each submission that will take care of spam bots, koan i will appreciate a link to some tools.
The thing is that after I've reported spam to some email address posted for the IP range (which was returned as unreachable) posting from same IP has increased.

koan

2:22 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

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CVAS, here's a link that will probably pass moderation (linking to specific sites is against TOS):

[en.wikipedia.org...]

toomer

4:15 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

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If you want to ban him, but don't want him think that you've banned him and go all click-crazy on your site ...

Try building some sort of relatively realistic looking error page for your site - what PHP/ASP/whatever would typically throw out if there was a problem writing to the DB or your code was seriously broken or something. Save that as a specific error page, then if you see a post come from his IP - discard the post, and redirect him to that page.

He'll just think you've got one seriously broke-___ site that barfed on his submit. Might even be bold enough to contact you about the error ... that would be amusing. In any case, hopefully he'll just think your site is broken and no-one is paying attention to fix it, and he'll move on.

tabish

5:52 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

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System: The following 2 messages were spliced on to this thread from: http://www.webmasterworld.com/google_adsense/3259839.htm [webmasterworld.com] by martinibuster - 10:48 pm on Feb. 21, 2007 (utc -8)


Hello,

Recently i am noticing SO many spammers attacking on my site and creating fake profiles. I keep banning them, it is almost useless for them to make any profile/article on my site because their account gets activated only when i allow them. And i block them on the first palce because now I know much much more about their cut and paste technology. But they wont dissappoint, they keep making profiles and i keep blocking them. it has become almost a Game.

My question is, what if one day any spammer gets angry and starts clicking ads, wil google consider it as spam and block my adsense? I already written about this issue to google and waiting for their reply.

No matter how many ips you ban, they will come with brand new ip and almost 90% of their ip will resolve as "United States" .. but i know that they are from African countries.

You can imagine the problem that, on an avarage i block almost 300 to 400 profiles/articles daily.

Can anyone tell me any good alternative to get rid of those ill African minds?

Regards
Tabish

Jafo

6:25 am on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

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If someone gets angry, and bombs your site, you just notify adsense when you see it.

This question has been asked so many times in this forum it is pathetic. It really should be stickied somewhere so people stop.

If you see anything irregular, contact google, and then move along.

cvas

2:57 pm on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Thanks everyone for help! toomer I like your idea ban them and make it look some kind of error and hope for the best. Once again thanks everyone!

londrum

10:08 pm on Feb 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

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if you're really, really worried you could always prevent the google ads from appearing for his IP address. then he'll have nothing to click.
there are plenty of easy scripts around this site showing you how to do it.

jetteroheller

6:27 am on Feb 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Make only for the IP of the spamer an own version.
He sees his intended version and is happy, while all the other people see the spam free version.

To avoid that Googlebot visits the spamer version, show on his version only Amazon ads.

jetteroheller

6:30 am on Feb 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

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if you're really, really worried you could always prevent the google ads from appearing for his IP address

I replace in this case usual with Amazon ads.

Chikita would be also a good alternative.