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i haven't seen very much adsense on youtube clips that were posted by people who didn't own the copyright.
as for the rest of it, that's a good question.
@surfer67 ok, but what about the other videos sites.
If they are posting copyrighted material, then they are in violation of the terms. It's not realy "if" since I have seen many clips from movies and televisions shows on these sites.
I'd be surprised if Google doesn't know that these sites are in violation. But I guess they're making big money from them so all is well. Nothing will be done until the rightful owners of the content protest. I remember reading somewhere that video sites could be facing big lawsuits in the future if they don't do a better job of monitoring copyrighted content. I know that there has already been a lawsuit filed against YouTube.
Seems to me if Google is running ads on a site they own it is a conflict of interest and could generate litigation in the future.
On what legal basis?
People are paying Google for the Adwords and then Google is turning around and keeping all the revenue from Adsense.
Really? Then why are so many of us getting payments from Google each month? :-)
Who is to say Google isn't only allowing the highest generating ads show on their site?
First of all, bids are for keywords, and many (most?) keywords won't even generate significant impression traffic on a site like YouTube.
Second, advertisers pay by the click, and if they find that they're paying premium rates for traffic that doesn't convert, they'll spend their money elsewhere.
The above link says that youtube will now share revenue with users.
The revenue from adSense will now be shared with the people uploading the videos. This is an invitation for the teenage crowd to click their own ads! I guess G will not ban youtube? ;-)
There does seem to be a conflict of interest here.
Google is having the highest bidder show on the search page taking those high bidders from other sites? I am asking more than implying.
All that said youtube doesn't use Adsense (not that I could find) but uses doubleclick
YouTube uses adsense on the search results pages. Top 728x90 and right column 160x800.
Seems to me if Google is running ads on a site they own it is a conflict of interest and could generate litigation in the future.
I don't know about that. But where there may be a problem is Google running ads on pages with copyrighted content and keeping all the ad revenue from these pages.
Agreed, no lawsuits yet
YouTube was sued on July 14 2006 by Robert Tur, an independent photographer, for distributing his work without permission.
Oh, and europeforvisitors, maybe your sites don't generate enough traffic to see it but you can make money from the number of ad impressions and not just clicks.
Actually, I make quite a bit of money from CPM ads, but what does that have to do with this discussion?
YouTube uses adsense on the search results pages. Top 728x90 and right column 160x800.
That's not AdSense. It is doubleclick.net ads.
[edited by: NavyCS at 7:49 pm (utc) on Jan. 28, 2007]
Actually, I make quite a bit of money from CPM ads, but what does that have to do with this discussion?
I wondered if Google would place the highest paying ads, CPC and CPM included, on sites they own.
On a site like Youtube so many keywords and phrases are generated everyday by the naming and synopsis of the videos presented that a bunch of different AdWord advertisements would display that the AdWord client may not want. I would, depending on the products I was selling, bar a Youtube site from hosting the ad (strictly my opinion). I am rambling on and have moved away from the original topic, for that I apologize.
That's not AdSense. It is doubleclick.net ads.
Doubleclick runs contexual advertising? But the ads say "Ads by Google"
<!-- google_ad_section_start -->
<!-- begin ad tag -->
<script type="text/javascript">
ord=Math.random()*10000000000000000 + 1;
document.write('<script language="JavaScript" src="http://ad.doubleclick.net/adj/you.results/_default;sz=728x90;kch=1600166264;kbg=FFFFFF;ksearch=more%20than%20a%20feeling;kr=F;ord=' + ord + '?" type="text/javascript"><\/script>');
</script>
<noscript><a
href="http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/you.results/_default;sz=728x90;ord=123456789?" target="_blank"><img
src="http://ad.doubleclick.net/ad/you.results/_default;sz=728x90;ord=123456789?" width="728" height="90" border="0" alt=""></a>
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Maybe the Adsense ads on YouTube are geotargeted. What country are you in?
way off-topic... this thread is about adsense on youtube, so he was obviously referring to google keeping the adsense revenue.
any rev sharing on youtube is months away.
>Copyrighted Material
>Website publishers may not display Google ads on web pages with >content protected by copyright law unless they have the necessary >legal rights to display that content. Please see our DMCA policy for >more information.
Or maybe the adsense polices doesn't matter for the big fishes.
[edited by: NavyCS at 12:41 pm (utc) on Jan. 29, 2007]
in terms of definitively breaking the copyright, the ad should be on the page where the video clip is playing.
i searched metacafe for Eminem clips, and i didn't see what appeared to be adsense on the pages where the video was playing... the other possibility is that metacafe has licensed the use of the Eminem video clips.
@danimal you mean if the ads are showed in the search results page there is no problem, and the problem is only for the pages with video?
[edited by: jatar_k at 5:04 am (utc) on Jan. 30, 2007]
[edit reason] no links thanks [/edit]
my last post inferred that it was a copyright violation, which was confusing... if the website is profiting off of content that they don't have permission to use, there could be more at stake in a u.s. court... as opposed to just using stolen content without adsense.
putting up frame grab pics in a search results page with adsense might be a gray area, because the frame grabs could be fair use... that has been done for years by major video search engines, i'd name 'em, but it's against the WebmasterWorld tos.
the adsense block in that pic doesn't look real.
huh, it's real just opera shows it buggy.
Here is firefox screenshot:
[edited by: jatar_k at 5:04 am (utc) on Jan. 30, 2007]
[edit reason] no links thanks [/edit]
