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1:33 pm on Jan 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I have a site that is in a niche hobby craft area, we get about 10,000 unique visitosr / month and about 150,000 page views. All search Drived traffic. I run adsense and 1 other large affilaite program. Between the 2 I am making $500-$1000 per month. Like others my adsense jumps wildly from $5 a day to $20 some days but my traffic is steady.

Im just wondering if others with simillar traffic are doing a lot more, a lot less or about the same. I know it depends on your subject matter and the advertisers but all that aside di you think I am monetizing my existing traffic well enough?

In your opinion is my next step to get more traffic or try to make more $ off the trafic I already have?

Thanks for your help, I have been reading here for a while now but just can't seem to get past this stage of the adsense game, My goal now is to break $50 per day.

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In your opinion is my next step to get more traffic or try to make more $ off the trafic I already have?

I do not think this is a binary thing. You should put the focus on getting more (quality) traffic which is harder to achieve IMO. At the same time you should optimize your revenue by blocking MFAs and finetuning ad layout, placement and colors.

Your $ figures look okay to me. I would be worried about the "swings" that you notice. It should be a bit more solid IMO.

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Jonpoh. In my case, the growing in traffic from Jan 05 to Jan 06 did not bring me more AS revenues, while the growing in traffic from Jan 06 to Jan 07 is showing a decrease in AS incoming in more than 40% (average).

Please mzanzig, what is this “blocking MFAs”? The other thing that you mention about getting more quality traffic has been part of my job in the last years.

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Thanks, Im looking for MFA's right now, fining a lot more than I thought.

Is anyone making $50 + per day from 150,000 page views a month (5000 per day) or is that too much to expect?

as an informal poll how many page views per month (or day) did it take you all to reach $50 per day.

Just wondering.

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How much of an effect on earning can getting rid of MFA's have?
4:26 pm on Jan 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Hi jonpoh

relative to me, your performance is absolutely stellar, so might I ask how long it took you to get Organic traffic to 5,000 page views per day

And is that 5000 as measured by adsense statistics?

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Jonpoh, agree with centime. Your performance seems very nice to me.

Please, what do you mean with MFA?

Thanks

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I wouldn't worry about the swings you see. Nothing worth worrying about because imo it's within the normal range. Those amounts are so small, that a swing of $15 in either direction is well within normal. Once you bring in more traffic you'll see the fluctuations remain, but they'll be easier to swallow.

Focus on more traffic and once you start earning above $100+ per day the $15 swings will become $30-$60 swings, hehe.

AdSense is generally not stable. It's subject to many forces outside of your control. Concentrate on growing your traffic. If you feel you've maxed out your niche, try growing vertically or horizontally. Think of the DMOZ categories and go up or across a branch.

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I'm not sure there is anything you can do to bring in more traffic or make more money from that one site. After all, in your first sentence, you state that it is a niche hobby site. By definition, it is going to have a limited audience.

I think you should just keep building the site the way you would if it wasn't for AdSense to keep the traffic up, and to grow it as much as the niche allows. Then think about what other sorts of sites you might be interested in starting.

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I think you're doing really well.

My site gets 13,000 unique visitors and 40,000 page views *a day* and we're only making about 3x what you have reported here.
Our Adsense is only a secondary thing on our site but your figures tell me we could be doing much better.

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MFA stands for "Made For Ads", i.e. advertisers who run sites that offer nothing else but ads on their sites (aka "arbitrage business").

For me, getting rid of MFAs increased EPC up to 40%. Search this forum for more information on MFAs - there is a wealth of quality information here, as this is a very popular discussion topic.

The most important step in starting getting rid of MFAs is to use the official Google Preview Tool to see which ads are showing on your site and to see the landing pages.

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Thanks mzanzig for the information.
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well it may be just an "up day" but since I got rid of the MFA's just a few hours ago I have already seen an improvement. : ) Time will tell if it is real or just a blip.

Thanks for the info.

I am happy with the performance and am in no way complaining.

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Increase traffic!

I was able to increase traffic by 10% this month with one link exchange with a semi-competitor.. looking for more opportunities now.

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I'm not sure there is anything you can do to bring in more traffic or make more money from that one site. After all, in your first sentence, you state that it is a niche hobby site. By definition, it is going to have a limited audience.

I have to disagree with this. Niche hobby sites, especially when they're as lucrative as the one in question, are usually quite easy to grow traffic-wise by expanding subject-wise. For example, a site about "Pirate Memory Games" might add sections about other types of memory games, books about improving your memory, online memory tests, pirate collectibles, pirate movies, pirate books, and on and on and on... Little by little you'll begin to pick up new visitors who are interested in the related topics, and will click on the related topics' ads.

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Thanks, I have done this, (expand the subject and keywords) and continue to do this all the time.

My question was just to see if everyone was going to say "jeeze with that traffic you should be doing twice that income". But it sounds like Im maximizing my site about as best as I can. I will continue to watch for MFA's and build traffic.

Thanks so much for the help.

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The others are right about maximizing your income for your current traffic, you've done great so far with the traffic you have to work with. Good luck continuing to grow the site by branching out into other related fields.

P.S. Filtering "Made For Ads" web sites can become a full time job if you let it. Don't let this take time away from more important issues, growing your traffic.

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P.S. Filtering "Made For Ads" web sites can become a full time job if you let it.

Fortunately, Google set a physical limit to this exhausting activity - 200 slots, and that's it. Once these are filled, the busy webmaster (or webmistress) can go back developing their sites. ;-)

7:18 pm on Jan 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Well not sure what happened but my earnings have been severly diminished in the last couple days. Seems to be right after I filtered out a bunh of MFA's. Im doing horrible now. yesterday was lowest in several months and today seems to be worse yet.

Arghhh!

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its possible that by adding too many sites to your exclude list, you've reduced the competition for your sites,,,

so, even the sites that paid more to advertise on your site, can now pay less, anyway, I am hardly use my exclude list, but then again, I don't know enough

good luck

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Well it was 2 lousy daus in the $3 range but today seems to be back on track a bit, time will tell