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Thanks.
The opinions range from having all ads on the same page as adsense as long as they look different - to not having any other ads on the site with adsense if those ads remotely resemble adsense ads in form or function.
Hopefully jen will clarify things.
the reply I got from them was that both are allowed on the site as Kontera ads are not the same as google (have to admit they look nothing like each other) and they also sent me a couple of links to other sites that use both with no problems?
thats one thing I hate about this game, one says one thing and the other says another thing? so which is it? are Kontera text link ads allowed on sites that have adsence on them or not?
regards
read Jensense on this, she has first hand information from Brian Axe, AdSense senior product manager, that confirmet the page-level ban has been lifted...
P.S. Just saw in Jen's article that YPN ads still can't be run on the same page, due to YPN restrictions. This change will be worse than I thought, because I REALLY can't stand those intrusive and irrelevant IntelliTxt ads.
will report back later with some results for you
regards
Google's consistently been the cart pushing the horse. Ads are ads, plain and simple. They should be happy we put their ads on our pages, not threatening us with expulsion should we attempt to make more money with other ad serving solutions.
Considering that eCPM is <$10 for most publishers, I'm frankly quite surprised that there hasn't been a wholesale uprising from the ranks of the publishers.
I've recently begun selling my own space and am finding that I can produce the same income Google supplies in a month in a matter of days, without waiting 30-45 days to get paid, often getting months or as much as a year paid in advance.
I'm actually a little disappointed in myself for not taking the initiative sooner. I guess it's an object lesson. If you only take what's given to you, it may not amount to much.
The way things are going on the internet, I'd say AdSense is about to become an afterthought for many.
Ever wonder what the eCPM is on Google's SERPs, using our sites as content? IMO, Google owes us much more than what they've been paying.
Speaking personally, I fail to see this as a good thing. I haven't exactly been holding my breath waiting for more ad blocks to cram onto my site.P.S. Just saw in Jen's article that YPN ads still can't be run on the same page, due to YPN restrictions. This change will be worse than I thought, because I REALLY can't stand those intrusive and irrelevant IntelliTxt ads.
I with you on these points. I can't see us taking advantage of the looser restrictions, since the only ads worth our while apart from google would come from YPN. The ongoing negative stories from YPN discourage me from thinking about them -- I just don't think they are ready for prime time anyway, and we are in Canada, so can't join.
The other players aren't even worth our time to test because of low quality ads, low payouts, poor targeting, poor user experience, etc.
What DOES worry me is that google's loosening up probably means that MFA/scrapers etc, can now plaster even more ad blocks in place of content. Imagine if YPN also loosens up, and then we'll see a full complement of adsense blocks PLUS YPN block. Not a good thing if google is serious about doing something about contentless sites.
ok been running kontera now for a few days on one of my sites, the site in question has had adsense on it for about a year and a half and like everyone else I get hit with smart pricing every now and again, last 6 months have been hit pretty bad with it but do get a few good days.
ok some rough stats for you over last few days on both
adsense gets a little over twice as many clicks as kontera but kontera just say beats adsense in regards to earnings eg adsense 700 clicks = $50, kontera 325 clisk = $55
please remember that those are rough estimates but are pretty close to the bone.
have started using kontera on my forum and its almost a complete reversal of the first site, eg kontera twice as many clicks but roughly same revenue as google with half as many clicks
as you would all already know it does depend on the site in question.
there you go hope this was of some use to some people on here
regards
I REALLY can't stand those intrusive and irrelevant IntelliTxt ads.
I agree. I was accepted into Kontera a couple of years ago.
However, in addition to being a webmaster, I am also a web surfer. I visit other sites, some of them use Intellitext/Kontera ads. They tend to get very annoying after a while. Not quite as annoying as popups, but annoying nonetheless.
Since my experience as a websurfer was not positive, I decided to remove the Kontera ads from my sites.
If an ad annoys me while being a web surfer, I do not want to use it myself.
Why? Because it just underlines words. Banner ads can flash insanely, popups/unders are ultra annoying, but how annoying can just simple underlined words be?
Like many others, I loath to cram more ads on my pages, BUT if I were to add anything else at all, I would rather it be something extremely low key like intelitext. (can never spell this lol).
I can't imagine an ad being LESS intrusive then this...
Can anyone confirm definitively, are these ads allowed now on the same page as adsense?
[edited by: MThiessen at 1:39 am (utc) on Jan. 29, 2007]
Another forum I visit has Intellitext on it. It got to be very annoying as I attempt to scroll and/or reply to messages.
I guess it depends on how many words get highlighted.
One or two per page wouldn't be so bad, a page full of it would be horrible.
