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I have a proposition for Adsense Team, but I don't know if can be real:
All people who has dissabled accounts can have a second chance in THAT conditions:
a) it past ONE YEAR without google adsense;
b) in the next 6 month their revenue is 10% of a normal one; after that, next 3 month revenue is 30%; in the last 3 month of the year just 50%;
c) after ONE YEAR without Adsense and ANOTHER YEAR with revenue seriously reduced, in the third year, at least, the owner can work at 100% with Adsense.
I think everyone deserve a second chance.
Thank you for your time.
Can I see your reaction about this?
If Google wants to attract and keep advertisers, it can't afford to have crooks as business partners.
End of story.
Where are you finding that honest people? In Adsense in 2010, let's say? Maybe, but I doubt!
There are lots of us! I dare say that the majority of real content publishers out there take a certain amount of pride in the number of real clicks that they receive from their real traffic from people that are really interested in their topic.
The fact that you can't believe it tells me that you aren't very trustworthy. You will only be as honest as is forced upon you.
If Google isn't strict enough by 2010 to have mostly honest publishers, then someone else will. The advertisers will be more willing to spend more money through that program.
Where are you finding that honest people?
In Adsense in 2010, let's say? Maybe, but I doubt!
I am sorry but I really don't get this.
I honestly believe that the vast majority of Adsense publishers is honest and does not click their own ads.
I try to make the so called "stealers" visible.
Google tries to make them invisible by kicking their butt.
I like that more.
I lose money too (because invalid clicks), but not in Adwords, so I know what's happening.
Hehe, you mean that you, who clicked your own ads, are now complaining about other people who click their own ads?
Well, ok, stealing is always wrong.
You lose in Adwords 10.000 usd because invalid clicks?
That amount of money was stolen from me in one month by people systematically clicking their own ads.
I have the same question for you: why are you continue here?
We both know the answer: Adwords/Adsense is and probably will be for a long time the best place for advertiser/publisher in the same time.
No, no, no.
I continue to use Adwords because Google kicks out frauds and returned the money that was stolen from me.
By the way, Adwords works cr*p for me for the past few months so I am locating more cash to Yahoo and Microsoft every month.
I agree Adsense is one of the most easy ways to make money online.
But there are enough alternatives to monetize your website.
It just requires more work to get the job done.
And it appears that's the punishment for click fraud.
Consider CJ, YPN, Clickbank and Shareasale your second chance.
Consider CJ, YPN, Clickbank and Shareasale your second chance
For how long, I wonder? The big PPC networks recently agreed to work together on identifying and preventing click fraud. Sharing information on publishers with questionable records would be a good step in that direction.
Furthermore, let's not forget the bigger picture here: the advertisers are the one who make the world (the AdSense world, that is) go round, and not the publishers. There's a lot of unhappiness in regard to the crap content network, let alone the worries for the level of click fraud. If Google, as the major player in the PPC business, would offer a second chance to those who defrauded the system, that'll scare advertisers away and this will later affect the AdSense publishers. Sort of a shooting yourself in the foot.
BTW, does anybody has any idea of what is the proportion of income for Google from the Content Network and from Google properties?
[investor.google.com...]
Google Sites Revenues - Google-owned sites generated revenues of $1.63 billion, or 60% of total revenues...
Google Network Revenues - Google's partner sites generated revenues, through AdSense programs, of $1.04 billion, or 39% of total revenues,
Holy cow, they lost 1% of their revenues.... I guess I can have it!
I've heard many people here talking very derogatory comments about the income that Google Content generates like if it were about 1% or 2% of the total.
But 40% is really an amount to take care of.
I don't understand english very well, I'm not a native speaker. In 2005 I understand less little than now.
I'm not a thief, THATS FOR SURE! It must be a border somewere, somehow.
How can I explain to you and to google that Adsense was my FIRST TRY and I don't understand their policies at all at that time?
How can I explain to you and to google that Adsense was my FIRST TRY and I don't understand their policies at all at that time?
I don't understand a word of Finnish, but if I signed up with a Finnish pay-per-click ad network, I'd know better than to generate clicks on my site that advertisers were paying for.
In any case, Google can't afford to take a kindhearted view of people who have committed click fraud, because advertisers aren't interested in excuses. Advertisers want to spend money with a network that will protect them, not the publishers who waste their money by clicking on ads. It's that simple.
I'd only be worried about accidental clicks, those can and will happen to anybody. [OTOH AFAIK they are just processed at 0 earning, so they cost nobody anything]
Intentional clicks -either through not reading the policies or either out of bad intention- deserve no second chance.
It's bad enough to attract the top advertisers to opt-in on the content network, let's not make more hurdles for them.
* I am not saying that everyone fits into the "world and his wife" category but you get my drift.
If you want a second chance, make it yourself...
- open a completely different website
- get someone you trust to open a google account for you at a different address.
- change server host
- open a new bank account( preferably with a business name ) at a different bank.
- change ISP so they don't match your IP when you log on.
- never break the TOS
sounds like a lot but how difficult it is depends on how desperate you are to get back in. i know at least 2 people who did this and they are now happy law abiding google citizens but i have no doubt google would eliminate them again if they traced them despite their changed behaviour.
That's I'm affraid for!
Dear advertisers is this way the correct way? I know few people who did exactly the same and they have decent accounts. They are hiding to became for one more time a part of the great Adsense Family.
I will never do this step.
End of the story!
:)
Good luck to everyone!
Bye!
