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Someone else used my adsense code and google has warned me.

         

noodlebox

10:41 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)



I came back today, all happy, tired, a little bit hyper... happy stuff today... then i find a google email...

Adsense explained that my adsense code violated their terms and conditions on another site I do not own.

I am very worried because they've explained that if this happens again my account will be shut down, however they disabled ads displaying on this reported site.

The biggest problem is I did not or request my adsense code published on such site, and therefor I can only say that someone else put the code either with a robot or intentionaly to get me banned.

I am sure that this will not be only case in time , as more sites use other content and fail to remove adsense ID from the adsense code.

It has come to my attention that this will effect everyone using Adsense in time and that Adsense stated if this happens again my account will be closed.

What did i do? Nothing.

Can we help to prevent this? No.

What do we do? Pray?

hunderdown

10:51 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)



What did i do? Nothing.

You didn't even explain the situation to them as you've explained it here?

noodlebox

10:52 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)



No what would i say?

That i dont own the site they've blocked.. that im happy? c'mon dude I'm scared I'll lose my adsense account over this!

noodlebox

11:07 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)



I just took a look at the link with a friend and we checked the ID and the ID does match my adsense ID, and ads are still serving on his page but no longer with my code?

I have a feeling there is either a bug here, or he's switched adsense code to get a further competitor out of adsense.

Weird Stuff and deffinately worrying.

DamonHD

11:08 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

Unless you know you're up to no good on this or something else, why would you not just explain the situation as it is and that you have no connection with the other site?

If you ARE keeping something under your hat then you've been very foolish and G is smarter than you.

Rgds

Damon

hunderdown

11:14 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)



No what would i say?
That i dont own the site they've blocked?

Yes, why not? I don't understand your reluctance.

shogun_ro

11:43 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

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In your account did you defined under AdSense Setup>Channels>Url Channels the url of your site?
Example: [google.com...]

Hobbs

11:49 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Very strange that Google would give a publisher another violating publisher's url, from what people say down here, this never happens, unless they know for sure that it is the same person owning both sites, they can know through the whois information, the address and contacts, historical records of publisher IP logging in to the AdSense account, the fact that both publishers are never logged in at the same moment could confirm suspicion further, one of the 2 accounts always using a proxy to login could nail it even further, the owner of both accounts forgetting and logging to both accounts from the same PC, browser strings, cookies, many things..

So if they really gave you the url to that other site, then obviously they know for a fact that it is you owning both accounts, otherwise it would be a major screvv up on their side to reveal such information.

noodlebox

11:50 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)



I run legit site and have been for years, so why would I have to say anything to google when google has already explained to me that they found my code on a site and blocked it.

How the hell have i done somthing wrong? and if I had been doing somthing wrong do you think I'd complain about it like this?

LOOK... i read the topic about publisher id's and now it just happens that days after I got a dreaded Your ID was used on another site, we blocked it , and if you continue we'll ban you e-mail.

THE PART that gets me is the fact that I do not own the other site that my ads have been placed on.

AND there is none of my ads on that page?

THEY blame me for somthing I've not done , and all I have ever done to comply with google is not to break any of the rules and copy and paste my CODE on their pages and enjoy a EFT every month.

[edited by: jatar_k at 12:04 am (utc) on Jan. 13, 2007]

noodlebox

11:54 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)



I don't own the domain or even knew of the domain that google have told me in the email, and to be fair im very glad and respect google for letting me know who is using my publisher ID and blocking the URL.

If google has confused the site as my own, then I'm not so happy, because if this is the case, then it is clear the domain ip and my domain ip are not the same, and that i've never visited the site prior to this situation, so it is to my best interest to be concirned and not what you said about 'owning both domains by fact'.

If i did own both sites, do you really think I'd accuse anyone of using my adsense publisher ID and warning anyone who takes it for granted that this can happen and will happen to more just by bad luck more than anything.

I feel victimized, afraid of having my adsense code on the net, and upset that google doesn't prevent using your adsense code on other sites (which you don't own!)

Flaw in the google system is that when you've got an account you can't tell them which site's you legitmetly own , and what sites arn't yours who may be used to exploit your code!.

[edited by: jatar_k at 12:03 am (utc) on Jan. 13, 2007]

rbacal

11:59 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)




I run legit site and have been for years, so why would I have to say anything to google when google has already explained to me that they found my code on a site and blocked it.

You don't have to, anymore than you should explain to the police that you couldn't possibly have stolen the squishee from the quickee mart if they claim you did. Since the consequences of explaining or not explaining all fall on your shoulders, it's up to you.

[edited by: jatar_k at 12:10 am (utc) on Jan. 13, 2007]

noodlebox

12:51 am on Jan 13, 2007 (gmt 0)



We all know that adsense is a bot managed system, so how would one explain without accidently explaining to the bot incorrectly?

In reality I dont own the site they've told me i own, and in the end that is the real problem, what i say to google means nothing here, the purpose of me telling you all about this is to enlighten you all and to show the flaw of running adsense on your site for years.. that one day someone will copy your adsense publisher id to their website, and google state clearly "you can copy your code to your other sites without informing us" therefor, google assume the offending site is yours.

End of Conversation on my behalf, my explaination or answers to your questions arn't really relevent here..

if being legit and chillin with a can of coke results in suspension over someone elses wrong doign with your ID then this world, this service, truely is ironic.

And if you want to find out more, go ask a friend to copy your pub id to a porn site and enjoy. ;) you'll see?

rbacal

1:07 am on Jan 13, 2007 (gmt 0)



It doesn't sound like you want help here, but just want to warn others (there have been discussions the last week on this issue, so I guess some of us know about this.

I believe your post is against the tos of ww, but in case you want to figure out what's going on, maybe the url in google's note can tell you the story.

If you can explain what the "?" marks stand for without breaking tos, it might be useful in figuring out whether this is a case of scraping, framing, hijacking, or some other possibility. Clearly,

[?.com...]

is not a "normal" url. You may have stumbled upon a google bug, and if for that reason only, I think you owe it to yourself, and others to discuss this further with google. Maybe you can prevent this from happening to you and others in the future. And protect yourself.

(if you can explain that url further, I'm sure some wizards here can figure out what's happened). Also looking at the source code of the page(s) and even the headers might be useful.

noodlebox

1:09 am on Jan 13, 2007 (gmt 0)



i took out the real domain to comply more with WW replacing it with a '?'

Just don't think the site which has now a new Adsense publisher ID should be 'advertised' on the web.

*Shall i post his pub id that I discovered he has now changed his ads to?* -irony.


The chances are the ads on his site are someone elses pub ID in the same situation as I was ...

and if the ads are reported what then? ...

can you see a possible loop?

The site in question is a blog site and it's domain is trying to obtain search traffic with hypthens between the domain keyword names.

rbacal

1:21 am on Jan 13, 2007 (gmt 0)



i took out the real domain to comply more with WW replacing it with a '?'

Just don't think the site which has now a new Adsense publisher ID should be 'advertised' on the web.

I understand. If you EXPLAIN what the various?'s represent in each spot, it would help. Obviously the questions marks stand for different things. You can explain, without being so specific as to identify the site.

Here's an example: [?.com...]

(you might explain it like this)

the first part http...is the main domain

The second question mark appears to be part of a php or dynamic string

The third is:

the fourth one resembles the url of one of my web pages

Someone really good at urls and patterns used for evil means should be able to tell you pretty closely what's happened, and that in turn may tell you how and why google has "erred" in assuming the site is yours.

noodlebox

1:49 am on Jan 13, 2007 (gmt 0)



First part :

Keyword Search engine based word attempt, taking advantage of keyword-keyword..

Second part :

Keyword

Third part :

A domain they wanted to target - com (popular niche)

Forth part :

Another domain they wanted to target - category - com

No part of the site/domain/content is any way reflected on my domain/pages. the whois information brings up:

<removed>

Which is available publicly to anyone.

Not only that but the Pub ID on this page doesnt even match his new pub id on his scam page?!

This guy is blatently trying to scam hard working sites out of business.

His site name explains his scam "Search Finds" using the same method in his other domain.

if you click any link on his site you'll find its a MFA

[edited by: jatar_k at 1:54 am (utc) on Jan. 13, 2007]
[edit reason] removed specifics [/edit]

rbacal

1:53 am on Jan 13, 2007 (gmt 0)



Another domain they wanted to target - category - com

Could you explain what you mean by a domain they want to target?

(I'm really curious here...if you want to pm me the url, I won't distribute it to anyone, but I will take a look.

jomaxx

2:29 am on Jan 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Hmm. Bad luck. You're the second person ever to have their paid earnings clawed back.
[webmasterworld.com ]

Now you're the second person ever to be threatened with having their account terminated due to having their publisher ID stolen. It's almost hard to believe one person could be so unlucky.

Play_Bach

2:31 am on Jan 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



jomaxx - I'm impressed! :-)

System

2:42 am on Jan 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

redhat



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