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Before You Started and Now: What Were Your Expectations and Reality?

What did you think before your started and what did you learn "otherwise"?

         

Webwork

3:25 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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On the eve of the eve of me falling off whatever cliff I'm stuck clinging to - before taking the plunge into applying to the Adsense program - allow me to ask this one silly question:

What thoughts or beliefs or ideas did you have about 'the Adsense program' - before you signed up - that you learned by experience, were either misconceptions, wrong, unrealistic, overly rosey, . . . whatever?

What's your "before and after" story reflecting what you thought the experience of working with the program would be and what that experience actually has been for you?

Hobbs

3:35 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Wouldn't know Webwork,
I joined AdSense before I heard anything about it, their mediapartners bot started and kept on indexing my pages, I took it as an invitation and joined.

> what that experience actually has been for you?

The most troubling aspect of AdSense is FUD
once there is a little more openness from Google, more publishers will plunge into the program full force.

That's also why I give Ad units only a small percentage of my traffic, referrals and direct advertisers get the rest.

I hear there's a rumor floating around the internet that there's a "bucket of money" in AdSense, making it attract the greedy bunch of the players, that also worries me long term.

[edited by: Hobbs at 3:39 pm (utc) on Dec. 21, 2006]

jimbeetle

4:00 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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My expectations were that it would bring in a few bucks to smooth out some of the hills and valleys in income from my affiliate sites.

The reality is that it performed a bit too well. I find myself putting more and more time into the affiliate side (new programs, new sites), so I can keep somewhat of a balance and don't become too reliant on one source of income.

Make more money because of Adsense, work harder because of Adsense. Go figure.

hunderdown

4:25 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)



I thought it might make me a little money to supplement earnings from Amazon, which had been my main earner.

I was astonished that from the get-go--when I put the code on maybe a couple of dozen pages on my site, with aesthetics dictating placement--AdSense earned double Amazon. Now, with experience and tweaking, and ad placement remaining inobtrusive, it's earning me four times what I make from Amazon (Amazon didn't drop off, either).

Closest I've come to stubbing my toe on a bucket of money!

WolfLover

5:59 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Webwork, in my experience, it is certainly worth it. I make a couple of thousand dollars a month just for having the ads on my site.

If placed correctly, they really do not hurt the looks of your site. I have an ecommerce site that earns 98% of the money, however, over the last few months, I've been building many other sites that are not ecommerce and a few dollars have started trickling in. It could be much more if I were not only one person and can only work so many hours in a day, but I have hopes that with the new sites, next year will be even better.

Good luck to you! You are a great guy and have always offered so much information to others in the Domain Names forum especially.

Happy Holidays!

Pengi

6:43 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'd heard rumours of a bucket of money, but I also knew that it required a lot of time and effort to make the bucket and keep it filled.

I'd hoped to find a source of extra income that could, in time, allow me to spend less hours working.

I've found a source of extra income - but at a cost of spending all my time working, monitoring or adjusting.

europeforvisitors

7:46 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)



When AdSense was launched in June, 2003, the concept of the network was much like the concept behind affiliate marketing in its early days: It was a form of advertising that would allow publishers to "monetize" their Web content, and not a just a get-rich-quick scheme for the If-it's-Tuesday-it's-time-to-launch-another-domain crowd. So my expectations were fairly simple: I figured that AdSense would outperform traditional untargeted ad networks, and it did.

Over time, the program has improved in some ways (e.g., smart pricing and domain filters were introduced to make the content network more attractive to advertisers), and it's gotten worse in others (e.g., the expansion into so-called "content" media like gmail, the growth of made-for-AdSense sites, and the provision of tools that--whether by intent or accident--have made it easier for AdSense publishers to encourage inadvertent clicks).

The advertising landscape has changed since AdSense was introduced, and display advertising is now making a strong comeback in some sectors, with net CPMs that--in some cases--outperform AdSense eCPMs by a significant margin. Will AdSense's ubiquity turn PPC ads into a commodity, or will Google be able to increase the value of the content network (or subsets of the content network)? It'll be interesting to see what changes 2007 brings.

rubenski

8:04 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I expected to earn 3 to 5 dollars a day and I got 30 :) Adsense has allowed me to expand my site and my business much easier. That is something I definitely had not expected.

swa66

8:37 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Started out as a way to add some more income then what amazon was yielding.

Cash wise, I would have been happy with a lot less, so I was flabbergasted by the first month's cheque.

Ad quality wise I'm still far from impressed it seems like it sits there in the long tail made up of crappy advertisers that basically feel visitors are worth only cents, but don;t mind write copy that attracts them like crazy. This latter has had it's up and downs and perhaps the downward trend is finally turning positive again. If the money wasn;t so positive, I'd be long out for this reason alone.

Web_Savvy

9:13 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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What Were Your Expectations and Reality?

When starting out, expectations were to make some pocket change - a few hundred - every month.

Now, some years later, averaged a bit under the UPS club level for the whole of 2006, more or less passive income.

Thank you Google, and thank you WebmasterWorld.

seoram

9:37 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I had good expectations on Adsense, but google has exceeded my expectations. I get a few clicks a day to my site and many of them convert and I see that my daily earning are far ahead of what I thought I would earn per day

Visi

1:23 am on Dec 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Welcome to the pool Webwork...jump on in the water is fine:)

The program seems to have matured over the past year or so. About a year ago I actually removed adsense from many of my pages due to low earnings in comparison to sold ad space. We have again added it to the majority of our site and have noticed that wild swings in income are not as prevelant as previously noted.

Depending on exactly how it fits into your overall revenue streams it can provide a steady, low maintainance source.

Unlike many here we refuse to second guess the algo and assume G wants to maximize the revenue so allow them to do that. It is easy to add and the TOS is a lot less harmful then many we have been asked to sign.

So strap on the water wings and we'll see you at the floating bar:)

netmeg

4:36 pm on Dec 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I wasn't really expecting anything much, and my main site had already been up for four or five years before I put AdSense on it. It only gets significant traffic three months out of the year anyway, being tied to a specific event. (Those three months are killer, though) And every time I set a goal, something would happen to put it out of reach.

My initial hopes were that it earn enough to cover my cigarettes - but then the taxes and prices went up above $5/pack, and I quit smoking.

Then I was shooting for enough to cover gas, because I have to spend so much time in Detroit which is 55 miles away. We all know what happened with gas prices. Sigh.

But overall, the trend is good. I made roughly three times this year what I did last year, expanded to half a dozen small sites, and if I ever get the time, have some ideas for a couple more.

It'll never replace my day job, nor do I expect it to.

jomaxx

5:25 pm on Dec 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I wouldn't say I had any preconceptions that proved to be wrong. I even managed to make a pretty good guess how much I'd be earning. The only thing I didn't know was how narrow the ad targeting could become in my area.

As it turns out, it's not particularly precise. What I see is medium to fine targeting, when I'd prefer ultrafine, exact-phrase style targeting.

Webwork

10:56 pm on Dec 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thank-you all for the feedback, insights and kind comments.

Before I miss the opportunity: Happy Holidays To All! ;0)

Genuine1

2:35 am on Dec 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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GAS prices? Try the UK where we spend 9 dollars plus a gallon.

Tropical Island

11:37 am on Dec 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I was spending several hundreds of dollars a month out of pocket with AdWords to support my tourism business. It worked so well that I was fully booked all the time and had many visitors that I had to turn away because of lack of inventory.

I decided to add AdSense to monetize those visitors that I had nothing to sell too. The AS income now doubles my AdWords bill & I'm still full. It has had little or no effect on my reservations. Thanks WW and AdSense.

piatkow

1:14 pm on Dec 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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No expectations at all. I came across Adsense just before going on holiday in 2005, slapped it on a couple of pages and looked at the results when I came back. Looked like I could match my Amazon imcome and I did.

With a communuity based site we push the use of our Amazon links as a way of promoting the site. Clearly Adsense is just there and never mentioned.

Essex_boy

4:27 pm on Dec 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thought ah well Ill give it a go, has exceeded my expectations although I only earn pocket money.

It allows me to keep up my horse racing hobby free of charge.

FourDegreez

1:18 am on Dec 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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AdSense didn't live up to my expectations at first. The first time I tried it, the ads were poorly targeted. So I just kind of rotated them in here and there, and earned a few hundred dollars per month. It's only been this year that AdSense has been performing very well for me (on a new site). So far this year the earnings have been matching my predictions fairly accurately. I set high expectations, and happily they are being met.

davewray

5:08 am on Dec 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Webwork...Definately time to jump into the Adsense Pool :) When I pasted those little ads up over three years ago I must say I was pleasantly surprised when I saw the first few clicks come in. Every month since (all 41 of them) have made me some nice extra income with no work on my part (except the initial work of putting up ads)....

Dave.

andrewshim

10:30 am on Dec 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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not as easy as I had expected
(much more to learn and understand than just plunking a piece of code and waiting for the money to gush in)

not as smooth as I had expected
(more like a roller coaster)

not as worry-free as I had expected
(ever since someone decided to give me a hard time which resulted in that "invalid clicks" notification)

not as stable as I had expected
(about the same as working a full-time job in the sense that you could get the boot anytime)

not as much money as I had expected
(haven't reached the target I set for this year).

but I'm STILL EXCITED. My earnings can only go up.

Heck... Google gave me a fantastic way to make money that allows me to :

- work when I want, when I want, how I want.
- go christmas shopping on a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday at 3.00 pm.
- stay up late and wake up late.
- tuck my kids in for afternoon naps.
- take an hour long snooze after lunch.
- visit my kids during recess at school.
- work in my jammies...

;) ;) ;)

testing0

5:21 pm on Dec 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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@andrewshim

ehhehe best way to describe it.

DamonHD

5:28 pm on Dec 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

One of the few down points with AS is the constant whining (not in this thread!) of people who believe that they are ENTITLED to a BUCKET OF MONEY without any work NOW!

If you manage to avoid that trap, I think you'll do fine.

Keep your original, useful, helpful content quotient high, and remember that your site is there for your USERS not for AdSense and you'll be OK. Work on the site so far as you can is if AS didn't exist.

Rgds

Damon

Sweet Cognac

6:47 pm on Dec 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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After Adsense came out, it took us several months to decide to try it out. We didn't think the ads would look good on our hobby site and that visitors wouldn't like them.

After the first week, we thought, "Wow, this is amazing." And noone has ever emailed us and complained about the ads.

I was able to quit my fulltime job 2 months later, yet we sort of struggled with finances the first year. But the hubby quit his job in Feb 06. The finances are not struggling now, but we are not living high on the hog either.

sailorjwd

10:41 pm on Dec 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Two months after starting adsense back in 2004 I was thinking... WOW I could save enough to take two weeks off each year... this is really great.

Then 18 months and $200K later and I thought time to stop consulting and lay back, write content and collect the checks.

January 2007 around the corner and I'm back working nearly full time and i'm praying this will last for another 12 months so maybe I can take 10 days off :(