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It took 48-72 hrs to show the effect. Excessive key words was big problem. Wish I had this info earlier. Since last 8-10 days I am constantly enjoying double income everyday.
A few questions:
A. Was the tags you totally removed, redundant?
B. Did the meta keyword tag contain words not on the page, and an excessive amount of words?
C. (kinda like A.) Were you using the same exact tags on every page?
I found that on my forum, removing these two meta tags was helpful, that's because if you stuck a meta desc. and meta keyw. in the template, then all the forum pages had the same ones. REmoving them AND checking the text positioning to make sure the first paragraph of the post became the snippet, worked wonders.
Also putting the "topic" variable in the title tag created unique and relevant title tags for the page.
So, for a forum I recommend this too, but for a static site, you may want to just focus on a more accurate re-write of these tags.
A gigantic keyword meta tag is very counter-productive. However, if you totally remove these tags, they will either use your DMOZ description, or the first snippet of text googlebot comes to.
I believe he was talking about the keywords metatag which has nothing to do with what you indicated. You are talking about the description metatag.
So, what was the standard variance in your daily income over the last year? I'm guessing it's so high that a recent, short-term doubling of income is not statistically significant, however exciting and significant it may "feel".
Maybe your adsense has doubled because of Christmas?
A. Was the tags you totally removed, redundant?
B. Did the meta keyword tag contain words not on the page, and an excessive amount of words?
C. (kinda like A.) Were you using the same exact tags on every page?
I believe he was talking about the keywords metatag which has nothing to do with what you indicated. You are talking about the description metatag.
No I was talking about both tags, hench the word "tags" plural in what I said... He got it anyway...
to be clearer for you, if the KEYWORD meta tag is gigantic, it is counter -productive. If you remove the DESCRIPTION meta tag, G will use either your DMOZ description or the first snippet of text it comes to. Perhaps I should have said this clearer the first time, sorry.
[edited by: MThiessen at 12:23 am (utc) on Dec. 9, 2006]
...G will use either your DMOZ description...
According to Google ( [sitemaps.blogspot.com...] ):
The way we generate the descriptions (snippets) that appear under a page in the search results is completely automated. The process uses both the content on a page as well as references to it that appear on other sites.
One source we use to generate snippets is the Open Directory Project, or ODP. Some site owners want to be to able to request not using the ODP for generating snippets, and we're happy to let you all know we've added support for this. All you have to do is add a meta tag to your pages.
To direct all search engines that support the meta tag not to use ODP information for the page's description, use the following:
<META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="NOODP">
OR
<META NAME="GOOGLEBOT" CONTENT="NOODP">
This way you can force G not to use DMOZ description.
...the first snippet of text...
So how many keywords in the metatags is considered to be acceptable?
This is hard to say. However, a good rule of thumb is Do NOT put in keywords that are either irrelevant to the site, or do not appear on the page at all.
On many of my most successful pages you might be lucky to find 5 or keywords, but on other pages there are about 20 to 30. However, all the words do appear on the page and are relevant, I think that is the key.
FYI im talking about a Forum site
I did a function that spits out the KEYWORDS String.
Input Parameters:
1- Message ID
2- Number of keywords i want to return - I set it to 10 for now
3- Minimum letters that a word have to have, to be consifered a keyword - (discarding the-for-my-it etc...)
Process
1- I get the message from the DB
2- I grab ALL the message text, main message and all it's answers
3- I remove HTML code and put it all in Lower case
4- I apply some censor Function to remove dirty words.....(did i mention my site was about heavy metal and underground music ;) )
5- I remove words that lenght is less than desired
6- i group them and count matches
7- I Sort the list
8- I display just the number of keywords i asked
Seems to be working very nice, now by just the keywords tag i can tell what is the topic about, the only problem is that since i've updated my site 2 days ago, with this new keyword google hasnt refreshed my sites cached pages.
I have 83,300 indexed pages in G, i dont know if he's re indexing them all again, and do some calculation, cause of the Keysords Change, i check usually the organic referred visits to my site, and when i look at what G shows for the Cached version of the page, my new keywords are not there yet.
How long should i wait? or this means something went bad in my new implementation?
Thanks