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specify what keyword / keyword string you want the ads for ...
specify the width of ads ...
specify how many ads to show ...
specify background / font colors and bordered ads or not
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even with the second tier's lower advertiser bids i have never had a single page that i tested both programs on that adsense out-performed the other
so why even bother with adsense you ask, well some of my sites / pages are structured in such a way that i instictively know adsense is better on. Having said that and without calculating, i would guess year-to-date that 85 percent of our income comes from this other program.
Allowing advertisiers to bid less on content ads was good for them and fair enough but it looks to me like this suggestion would help everybody concerned.
Believe it or not, G actually values and wants your input
I'm curious as to what actually makes you believe that? Given that we've had countless threads here about some of the features we'd like to see (some of them even formally organized into 'wish lists') yet have basically seen these go ignored.
So, I'm curious about what - specifically - makes you think G "wants and values" our input ... beyond simple optimisim that they do?
The last thread on this topic, from last month, had a thank you from ASA. It's pretty well known they scan here and discuss suggestions made over here, that they actually have meetings and talk about what we're discussing.
Believe it or not, G actually values and wants your inputI'm curious as to what actually makes you believe that?
Because in the past Google has made changes based, at lest partly on what has been said here. As martinibuster said ASA does read post here.
An example would be a page layout that is set to 90% width on the main table, then the leaderboard ad would be set to 90% width, so when a user opens up the browser window in a smaller size, it would be uniform with the table below it.
Adsense feature I would like to see is the ability to BLOCK/IGNORE keywords.
doesn't seem to work very well for me. I often get site-related ads instead of topic-related and page-related ads.Adsense feature I would like to see is the ability to BLOCK/IGNORE keywords.
On the first point, I'm with you both as an advertiser and publisher. The adwords interface/process for targeting site pages, etc is absolutely atrocious and largely unworkable.
On the second point, it won't work because adsense does NOT serve ads to the content network based on keywords, for obvious reasons.
Yes, I'm fussy with how I view stats! :)
and, if I really want to nag, I could complain that if my login has timed out it doesn't bring me back to the same page after I log back in, despite holding the path in the url (it used to! I wonder if they know it stopped?)
Or perhaps we just have a different understanding of what 'keywords' means :)
adsense does NOT serve ads to the content network based on keywords
AdWords advertisers input keywords, not topics or concepts, into their AdWords campaigns as well as into their creatives. So it's entirely possible to block an advertiser who is bidding on specific keywords within irrelevant topic areas from showing up in your AdSense units.
For example, if you have a site about Russian Army Surplus Clothing, and your ads are for mail order brides, something could be done. Adding a filter on brides could block ads for Russian, Russia, + Brides (as part of a bid phrase or within the creative).
[edited by: martinibuster at 1:00 am (utc) on Dec. 4, 2006]
I'm hoping that google is doing some checking in the background. For example, if they know that www.mysite.com is run by me and I'm currently running adsense, they will immediately investigate (and possibly let me know) if all of a sudden the adsense ads running on that site are pointing to a different as account.
It could be that they are already checking this
One bit of fluff that might be handy would be to be able to send an SMS message and get your current earnings for the current and previous days. Something similar to the ability to sms into google to get business phone numbers and addresses. They should be able to protect it by tying your mobile phone number into your account. For example, I'll be in court at least a good part of tomorrow. I'm probably not going to bring my laptop. If I could sms in at least it would relieve the boredom. (I would only do that OUTSIDE the courtroom. The phone gets shut off inside)
cg
AdWords advertisers input keywords, not topics or concepts, into their AdWords campaigns as well as into their creatives. So it's entirely possible to block an advertiser who is bidding on specific keywords within irrelevant topic areas from showing up in your AdSense units.
Yes, but as a site owner you do NOT know what keywords an advertiser used to get displayed on your site. The truth is that there's NO WAY anyone can block by keyword and be confident one is blocking what one does NOT want, and letting through what one DOES want.
This would be much less of a problem if the manual reviews google allegedly does of content ads was more rigorous, but since there are SO many ads approved with so many keywords that are only tangentially related, that if you ban by keyword you ARE going to lose good ads you'd want.
The much better alternative is for google to allow publishers to specify min. cpm or CPC (they "promised" the cpm option a year ago).
I am not in any way prejudice, but unless a page is targetting X specifically I want the majority of my readers to be interested in the ad not just a minority.
For example, if you have a site about Russian Army Surplus Clothing, and your ads are for mail order brides, something could be done. Adding a filter on brides could block ads for Russian, Russia, + Brides (as part of a bid phrase or within the creative).
OOPS. Should have included this. You could do this in cases where the targeting is as poor as you indicated. But how many keywords would you have to specify to get rid of the brides? Could you think of most of them? I have better things to do than to try and read the minds of advertisers, devining their keywords.
Consider also that if you filtered out on russian brides, you might just get Polish brides to replace them. You'd not have solved the real problem which is your page content and targeting problems.
Filtering on the creative (different than on keywords) is a bit more practical, because at least you CAN see the ads, so you can figure out what to filter. I might use such a feature because it doesn't require mind-reading.
steve
I got tired of bothering them and wanted to constantly juggle the keywords. I couldn't 'see' the list so it was kinda frustrating.
ps. It would block any ad that contained the keyword... like 'dating' or 'free' or whatever.
Consider also that if you filtered out on russian brides, you might just get Polish brides to replace them.
Well, the absence of the words Polish or Poland in the text of a site about Russian Widgets would preclude that from happening. But I know what you're trying to say. That a site about Russian Widgets might spawn irrelevant ads for Russian teahouses, Russian translation services, etc.
The other source of irrelevant ads is on authoritative sites that cover multiple sub-topics of a given subject, in particular on a forum. So on a forum about Widgets, it just so happens that Green Widgets are the most popular kind, and there's a lot of inventory on it, too. What happens to me is that Green Widget ads start showing sitewide, including pages on Blue Widgets, Red Widgets, and Pink Widgets.
What would be a solution to end that from happening? Section targeting? Needs more teeth. It's worked beautifully after freshly placing the code, but after awhile it reverts back. :(
Placing Section Targeting on my pages feels like pressing the pedestrian crosswalk button. You just know the button is not connected to anything. So my piece of advice is to trust the webmaster and give section targetting more weight.
The other source of irrelevant ads is on authoritative sites that cover multiple sub-topics of a given subject, in particular on a forum. So on a forum about Widgets, it just so happens that Green Widgets are the most popular kind, and there's a lot of inventory on it, too. What happens to me is that Green Widget ads start showing sitewide, including pages on Blue Widgets, Red Widgets, and Pink Widgets.What would be a solution to end that from happening? Section targeting? Needs more teeth. It's worked beautifully after freshly placing the code, but after awhile it reverts back.
Placing Section Targeting on my pages feels like pressing the pedestrian crosswalk button. You just know the button is not connected to anything. So my piece of advice is to trust the webmaster and give section targetting more weight.
ditto, ditto and ditto.
Take for instance a site about Home Business with sub topics ranging from Learning to cook to Babysitting. You want your visitors to have ads relevant to what they're interested in (Cooking and babysitting). With Asense, home business ads include everything from legitimate home business sites to get-rich sites. That leaves long-tail searchers for sub-topics frustrated and they leave.
You're also right about section targetting. My tests reveal that fresh pages with totally no other site-themed keyword generates ads on-topic, but put the content within a template and it reverts back to site-theme ads. Very frustrating. That leaves me with two options :
- Serve the topic on a clean page with no site-theme words / navigation (maybe a popup) or
- Close one eye and bear with it.
I don't like it but I chose the latter.
Allowing for smaller blocks and numbers of Adlinks i.e. just to have choice of 2
Along the same lines I find the ads found in adlinks are often not on the topic that that matches the link text.
I'd rather have fewer links than ones that can't serve up the ads on the topic it indicates.
Placing Section Targeting on my pages feels like pressing the pedestrian crosswalk button. You just know the button is not connected to anything. So my piece of advice is to trust the webmaster and give section targetting more weight.A little OT but that's just not true. It doesn't make the light change any sooner. The light still cycles as normal. But it does make the light you are crossing with last longer than it would if there is no traffic. For instance, a light usually will change right away to the next status when the traffic has gone through. But when you press the pedestrian button it makes the light automatically stay green for a predetermined amount of time, regardless of traffic. In fact, the time is usually set to make sure the slowest person could walk across. It's just another example of America lowering itself to the lowest common denominator. That's why pedestrians should be shot on sight for using this button.;)
[edited by: Powdork at 7:26 am (utc) on Dec. 4, 2006]
Believe it or not,
domain whitelist: only show ads with my ID on the domains I explicitely recognize as mine.
A little OT but that's just not true. It doesn't make the light change any sooner. The light still cycles as normal. But it does make the light you are crossing with last longer than it would if there is no traffic. For instance, a light usually will change right away to the next status when the traffic has gone through. But when you press the pedestrian button it makes the light automatically stay green for a predetermined amount of time, regardless of traffic. In fact, the time is usually set to make sure the slowest person could walk across. It's just another example of America lowering itself to the lowest common denominator. That's why pedestrians should be shot on sight for using this button.
see... you have a thread about Adsense Features and it serves up posts about pedestrian crosswalk buttons. That EXACTLY how Adsense is! I'd like to shoot my Ad block! ;)
