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Now, Adsense TOS clearly states not to use two accounts for one person.
Ok so far so good... but:
Let's assume they check duplicate accounts based on:
- the website the accounts are used on
- the profile of the owner (payment settings, name, mail, etc.)
- the ip witch the user logs in to his account
- the location from where the user logs in
What about following situation (imaginary situation):
I still live at home. I have a bluewidgets.com site on witch I use Adsense. I have an Adsense account and my account looks something like this:
name: John Doe
email: john.doe@gmail.com
bank settings: FORTIS-3332-556-5856
ip: 264.114.0.1
website: www.bluewidgets.com
location: Brussels
I also have a brother, who also lives at home (yes the same home) and by accident he also has a widgetsite called whitewidgets.com. He also has an Adsense account with following specs:
name: Philip Doe
email: philip.doe@gmail.com
bank settings: FORTIS-3332-556-5855
ip: 264.114.0.1
website: www.whitewidgets.com
location: Brussels
Please remark that our ip's are the same because we are on a shared internet connection.
I can imagine that this is stuff that could provide the Adsense team with a good bases to ban both of us for having duplicate accounts. They do look very alike, but how the hack will we be able to prove that we are actually two different persons?
Maybe the general question is: can Google be absolutely sure when they point out duplicate accounts in the meaning two accounts being property of one person?
Maybe you can think now: this example is stupid, Google will send mails or something like that to verify if both accounts are from the same person or not...
Ok, let's take it a step further...
Let's assume my brother and I both work on both widgetsites? We have an agreement that he places his adsense-pub-id on the pages he creates and vica versa. So we both log in with the same ip on to our Adsense account, both accounts are used on the same websites, our profiles look very alike... what will Google think?
Not enough?
My brother leaves for a long summer trip (3 weeks). He goes to the jungle in Africa, without laptop or internet connection. He asks me to check his Adsense account. Ok, I will check his account with his logins, so far so good, but immediately afterwards I check my own account with my login... what will Google think?
And all of a sudden... my brother creates another widgetsite... yellowwidgets.com and starts using his Adsense account on that website too... Ofcourse, I can't stand my borther making more money, so I also start a new widgetsite... brownwidgets.com, ofcourse using my Adsense account... what will Google think?
This may seem a little bit far-fetched, but look at it as a brain-exercise... could be very interesting for new Adsense users...
[edited by: ASchmitt at 4:07 pm (utc) on Nov. 28, 2006]
So google does provide permission if you are big fish and your situation is unique.
Hope this helps.
brain-exercise... could be very interesting for new Adsense users...
You don't say.
The general advice is to contact Google first. If you tell them up front, you are a lot more likely to get permission than if they have to find out on their own.
...how the hack will we be able to prove that we are actually two different persons?
I work for an online casino and we have a similar problem with duplicate accounts, which are used to abuse the bonus scheme.
In a situation such as the example given here, we would suspend both accounts and ask for copies if identification (e.g. passport or driving license) from both account holders if we believe one person to have more than one account.
I have no idea whether Google has similar practices.
She wrote it, updates it and runs adsense.
We have never had any issues with the two accounts thing, of course they are different mailing addresses, but I have used her computer to check my adsense, and vice-versa.
The no-two-accounts is a big problem.
That does not exist. There is no "no-two-accounts" problem.
It's "no-two-accounts without first explaining your circumstance and obtaining permission."
The important points are, I believe:
1 Ask Google first and explain your reasons. If it's too late to ask first, inform them before they find out.
2 Do not use the separate accounts to mislead, cheat or defraud.
3 Do not use Google vouchers on both accounts without checking with Google first that this is acceptable.
4 If one account should ever be banned - expect that the other account will be banned as well.
Let's say I now write an email to G and explain to them that my girlfriend wants an account and that she lives in my house (so same ip, address, etc.)
I already asked them and explained my situation as stated in the previeous topic [webmasterworld.com]...
Won't they get suspicious?
Are there any problems with doing it like this?
Whose name is the current account in? Given your issues, I'm assuming that it is in your name. That is your account.
Have your partner get their own account. Set up the sites to serve up your publisher ID 50% of the time, and serve up your partner's ID the rest of the time.
Another option is to use URL channels to differentiate where the money is coming in, and only share the money from the joint sites.
The problem is not that Google is being difficult. This aspect of the TOS was there when you signed up. The problem is that *you* have created an unnecessarily complex situation by sharing your one and only account with someone else.
What you need to do is clarify the situation whith your partner, since Google is not going to give you another account.
