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IE7 vs Google

Are we facing the death of AdSense (and Analytics etc)?

         

farfuture

11:35 am on Nov 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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A few days ago Windows Updated warned me that I should update my computer. It turned out that it was IE7 that I was requested to install. So I did, and after a while a new version of the browser was ready to use (for personal use I don't care about new IE-versions, as Opera is "made for me" :), but as ~80% of my users use IE, I have to check it out).

When trying the new version of IE, it immediately started to annoy me with a beep and a message, on (almost) all webpages I was looking at, telling me that my computer/browser was working in an insecure way (can't remember the exact wording).

It offered me a link to click to make my computer secure. I clicked it (what I am guessing most of my users probably will do too), and voila - no more AdSense!

So it turn out that the first thing IE7 does, is to make sure that javascript is turned off, by frightening users about insecurity (I'm not saying that javascript cannot be misused and introduce a source of insecurity - I'm only describing what happens)!

I was able to find out how to turn on javascript again. But how many of my 80% IE-users will? I can definitely say that my parents & siblings & most of my friends will not know how to turn it back on, unless they are told exactly how to do it.

This makes me wonder about the future of AdSense if it will still be based on javascript.

Pengi

11:41 am on Nov 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I started using IE7 a few weeks ago - similar reasons, it just appeared as part of the standard MS Windows Update.

I haven't received any of the security warnings you refer to, and I have had no problems with AdSense showing.

There seems to be some other factor about your security settings that is affecting yout computer security that IE7 is detecting, but the solution to turn off java is perhaps an overkill.

encyclo

1:35 pm on Nov 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It offered me a link to click to make my computer secure. I clicked it

... and you installed spyware on your machine. IE7 doesn't recommend disabling Javascript, it doesn't block AdSense (think of the lawsuits if it did), however even increased security compared to IE6 can't protect from users installing unknown software from unknown sites which are supposed to "make your computer secure".

Try the usual tools (Spybot, MS Defender, etc.) to remove the stuff that you installed, and AdSense will be back to normal on your machine.

mack

2:21 pm on Nov 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yea I have been running IE7 since the early betas and never had any problems like this. I would defiantly suggest you look into another source for the problem.

Mack.

farfuture

2:43 pm on Nov 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Pengi: Good to hear, then I can hope that most of my users don't get this message :)

encyclo: I think you maybe did conclude a little bit hasty about spyware here (in the same way as I myself probably concluded a little bit too hasty about the death of AdSense) ;)

This message appears as a line near the top of the browser as an integrated part of IE7. It is easy to find information about it, for instance a search in Google with the following 4 words: "security settings" ie7 annoying

In one of the search results I can read about one that experienced the same as me, and I quote from that user:

"... I get the following message:
'Your security setting level puts your computer at risk
We recommend that you do not browse the web with your current security settings.
To fix this, click on the Information Bar above, and choose Fix Settings for Me.'
...
In addition, at the top of every single page I attempt to browse, I get the yellow alert bar, giving me the following message:
'Your current security settings put your computer at risk. Click here to change your security settings...'"

It was when I clicked that link to "Fix Settings for Me", it turned off javascript. Probably there were other settings that were adjusted too, but javascript was also turned off by IE7 in this process. Manually turning javascript back on, made AdSense (and other stuff) visible again. Whether IE7 officially recommend turning off javascript or not, I don't know, but it *did* turn off my javascript.

I can also mention that in addition to some other sites, it was mostly on my own sites I checked out IE7, and I definitely do not have any spyware on those sites ;) (and just to be sure, I just ran spybot and adaware with zero findings)

But as I said, I am happy that it seems that most other users do not experience this, as it then will probably not be the huge problem as I feared.

plasma

3:19 pm on Nov 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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relax :)
If IE7 would force disabling JS for most users, there would be much more problems than AdSense nomore working. Imagine AJAX not working anymore. That sure won't happen.

europeforvisitors

3:38 pm on Nov 26, 2006 (gmt 0)



But as I said, I am happy that it seems that most other users do not experience this, as it then will probably not be the huge problem as I feared.

Just for the sake of perspective, it's worth noting that--just a couple of years ago--we were seeing threads about how Norton Internet Security was going to kill Web advertising.

And let's not forget that Microsoft, which makes IE, has as much vested interest in advertising as we do. :-)

ann

3:45 pm on Nov 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Spyware blaster is a machine protecting utility and each time you update you have to manually check mark the ads you want to show.
And a yes or no to disable javascript.

I have to do it for each of my advertisers else I could not even visit their home pages. This does proliferate over to IE.

Don't know how it acts in 7 as I have not yet upgraded it.

Ann

maxgoldie

6:19 pm on Nov 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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And let's not forget that Microsoft, which makes IE, has as much vested interest in advertising as we do. :-)

Seems to be the case; I see loads of adsense ads on my main site for MS.

mmontala

12:18 am on Nov 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Is it possible to use adsense in php? Hopefully adsense will have an option using php instead of javascript someday.

joaquin112

2:22 am on Nov 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Adsense in PHP? That'd be server side and yes it is possible but I don't think Google will be implementing that anytime soon.