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Kontera and Adsense?

Is it against TOS?

     
11:37 am on Nov 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I've just been accepted to Kontera network. I would like to know if it is against TOS to use Kontera with Adsense on the same pages?

Btw. how are your experiences with Kontera?

Thanks

12:19 pm on Nov 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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You need to ask the AdSense team, but Kontera certainly looks contextual to me.

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2:28 pm on Nov 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I've soeen some guy posted the reply from AS team: since Kontera is contextual-based, it is "illegal" to place it on one page with AdSense.
8:11 am on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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...But you can still use Kontera to replace Google PSA's, right? That can be as much as 50% of your pageviews.
8:49 am on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If you're getting 50% PSAs then something sounds wrong.
10:19 am on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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...Depends on the topic of your website, no? 50% PSA's on a futures trading website, where ad's pay $1+ per click, is unlikely, but on an educational website, for example, a shortage of advertisers is quite common coz there are so many educational sites.
4:58 pm on Nov 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Not if you have multiple ad units and one displays a PSA and the other displays a regular set of ads (this happens) in that case you would have two different contextuals on the same page. A no no
8:26 am on Nov 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I asked Google and they said that we cannot place Kontera ContentLinks with Google Ads.
4:33 pm on Nov 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I've soeen some guy posted the reply from AS team: since Kontera is contextual-based, it is "illegal" to place it on one page with AdSense.

It might be against the TOS, but it isn't illegal. You are not going to go to jail for this.

5:27 pm on Nov 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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There are many sites out there.. all of them use both. However it is better to ask Google first. My personal experience is something as follows

Before Kontera my Adsense was around $80 or so
After Kontera it went to $40 or so
Kontera was generating $20 or so
End result I dropped Kontera :)

7:10 pm on Dec 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Kontera content-links seem to be a good advertising idea. I tried them 2 days ago. My concern is if I'm allowed to use Kontera contentLinks with Adsense. I believe you can since Kontera is not contexual, it's more keyword links.

However, Kontera ads seem to confuse our users, and some find them intrusive and misleading. Kontera has made some investment in improving the load time of their script (but not much - my original load time is 0.10 seconds with Kontera, it got to 1 second).

But after 2 days of using them, I had to pull their tags because even Google is unsure if Kontera is against their TOS. Some Google reps says it's fine, but most of them says NO.

I think Google's main concern is that Kontera competes with their ads since they are in "text" format similar to Adsense.

A user here made a good point, when I start using Kontera with Adsense, my page views has dropped (though not much.)

The staff at Kontera seems to be responsive and very nice and professional, but they need to work with Adsense and make it official that it is okay to use them. They say they have a lot of big publishers using them with Adsense, and they are saying the truth because I've seem a lot of big sites using both. But still, probably Google hasn't checked their site yet. If Google did find out about those site, Im sure they will not get banned right away. They will be advised to remove them. So far those big sites, I know 6 of them, still use Kontera and Adsense together but I have no way of know for how long they've been using them.

I'm sticking with Adsense for now because I earn more money from them. I'm concern that if I start using Kontera, my Adsense revenue will drop.

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How do you tell whether an ad is a PSA ad or not? I have alot of ad's that look PSA-ish but they don't say PSA on them anywhere? Like ones for curing cancer and sleep issues.. could just be actual targeted ads?