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AdSense versus YPN?

         

jason77

7:54 am on Nov 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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has anyone any comparision between Adsense and the Yahoo network?

BigDave

8:05 am on Nov 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Here is one for you, Google AdSense comes before Yahoo Publisher Network when listed alphabetically.

another comparison is AdSense is worldwide, YPN is USA or North America only.

I'm sure there are lots more comparisons.

Scurramunga

10:12 am on Nov 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Here is another:

Google support answers your questions but Chitika doesn't

idolw

11:10 am on Nov 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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and here is one more
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[edited by: martinibuster at 6:25 pm (utc) on Nov. 19, 2006]
[edit reason] Fixed URL [/edit]

preeti

12:29 pm on Nov 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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adsense the best! long liv adsense

Broadway

1:11 pm on Nov 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I've started a process where I am taking Adsense off some pages and replacing it with YPN.

My experience is that you can't just place YPN on any page. Many times the YPN targeting is so off base you can't use it. But anyway, I've placed YPN on 20% of my pages (pages where the targeting is good). The CTR with YPN is 1/8th as much as with Adsense yet the payout per click is substantially more. The net result is that the YPN pages have a eCPM which is 30% less than Adsense.

gamiziuk

5:45 am on Nov 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I use Adsense on most of my sites, but put Yahoo on one site as an experiment (last 6 months or so). Site is about travel/hotel-reservations.

Yahoo was very slow in starting out for the first 3 months. Ad targetting was really slow in progressing.

However, things have picked up in the last 3 months and the figure$ are comparable to Adsense. Price per click for Yahoo appears to be better. Just not enough clicks yet. If Yahoo would develop an "Adlinks" unit then YPN would probably exceed Adsense earnings.

Your mileage may vary.

Chapman

3:00 pm on Nov 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The internet is global, AdSense is global, YPN is not! That's my comparison.

Doesn't seem to make much sense!

Chapman

OptiRex

12:13 am on Nov 19, 2006 (gmt 0)



What's YPN?

Yanks-Only Private Nonsense...

gamiziuk

12:38 am on Nov 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"OptiRexes need not apply"

:ROFL:

OptiRex

1:49 am on Nov 19, 2006 (gmt 0)



"OptiRexes need not apply"

Hehehe...or You, Personally, No...:-))

Youth, Probably Not?

swa66

2:08 am on Nov 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Unless I pay a lawyer money to set up a paper company in the US (Delaware?) I can't join?

No thanks.

europeforvisitors

8:24 am on Nov 19, 2006 (gmt 0)



This has been discussed many times here and in Webmaster World's Yahoo Publisher Network forum. Try a Google search, and you should be able to find some existing threads.

In a nutshell: It all depends. :-) The best way to compare how the two different networks will perform on your site is to belong to both and do some testing.

Chapman

5:17 pm on Nov 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yanks-Only Private Nonsense...

So it would appear. Pretty arrogant... and that's coming from a "Yank"! ;-)

Chapman

BigDave

8:37 pm on Nov 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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So it would appear. Pretty arrogant... and that's coming from a "Yank"! ;-)

Actually, it's smart business until they get setup to support it at an international level.

No, on second thought, that would require a company that would actually set up proper support for their services, which is something Yahoo! has never done.

I retract my "it's smart business" statement. It would be smart business for a company that had a clue.

swa66

9:33 pm on Nov 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Actually, it's smart business until they get setup to support it at an international level.

If supporting internationally means dealing with other languages, other timezones etc. Yes: good move to limit that.

But if you deal with foreign companies having an EIN, capable of filling out a W-8 (instead of a W-9) if you need so, capable of giving you all details on how to wire money to them and able to deal with business English in your TZ. Why would you limit yourself to one country? Why would you risk to alienate those partners?

Discrimination, Protectionism, Short-sightedness, ...: Yes;

It's almost as bad as MSN demoting all SERPs of servers not hosted in the US.

Smart? By no means.

[edited by: swa66 at 10:12 pm (utc) on Nov. 19, 2006]

BigDave

9:57 pm on Nov 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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What is smart is learning what you are doing before expanding.

Yeah, it will upset some people, but will it upset enough to hurt them in the long run? Time will tell.

I am surprised that they aren't in the UK yet, at least on a limited basis. That does seem like the most compatible secondary market.

swa66

10:18 pm on Nov 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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What is smart is learning what you are doing before expanding.

That's what you do by accepting limited numbers of participants, setting objective and relevant requirements to join, do test programs, ...

It's bad enough that governments don't get the reality that the Internet is global. It gets really bad if companies like Yahoo miss the point.

Think about e.g. how gmail was launched, did they launch it to just those living in California? Or did they allow anybody to send their friends an invite and slowly increase the number of invitations one could send out?
Similar with Google Analytics, unless you're an adwords player you have a queue to get invited.

sonny

10:27 pm on Nov 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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ypn came out with "compliance manager" whereby if any of sites or pages are not in compliance, they will alert you and give you chance to fix it. Adsense needs it.
Beats getting booted

europeforvisitors

8:26 am on Nov 20, 2006 (gmt 0)



Isn't YPN still in beta, officially if not in practice? If that's the case, it's a bit early to be harping on YPN for being U.S.-centric. (Which isn't to say that any publisher with a significant international adience shouldn't think twice before joining YPN.)

danimal

3:09 am on Nov 21, 2006 (gmt 0)



the obvious inference is that yahoo has not implemented country geotargeting for the ads that appear on it's ypn network, so of course the publishers have to be limited to u.s. traffic.

sonny

3:31 am on Nov 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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On one site I was receiving fewer clicks, due to poor targeting but their value was pushing $.40.
With adsense it's $.26 but the higher ctr pushes income 25%over ypn.
I still use it on one site, asit gets both high ctr and clickvalue.
You just have to experiment.