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Noticeable increase in ad quality

Fewer booking-site ads, more variety

         

europeforvisitors

11:44 pm on Nov 1, 2006 (gmt 0)



Recently I've noticed a distinct improvement in ad quality. On my travel-planning site, I'm seeing fewer ads for hotel-booking sites (many of which are likely to be pure affiliate sites) and more ads for other travel services. The booking ads are mainly on pages that are specifically about hotels.

I continue to see some mismatched ads (What's an ad for hotels in Boise doing on a European travel site?), but on the whole, the ads look better and--fort the most part--don't compete directly with my own affiliate links.

Have other people noticed any change in ad quality lately?

(FWIW, I haven't made any recent changes to my competitive ad filter, which includes only a handful of domains.)

trinorthlighting

12:07 am on Nov 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have noticed better targeted ads on our sites as well. I think google has been working on serving proper ads to proper sites lately.

Genuine1

12:48 am on Nov 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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And crappy ones to crappy sites?

Me too. But algoes tend to get things wrong at first as well.

europeforvisitors

1:11 am on Nov 2, 2006 (gmt 0)



I think I spoke too soon.

It suddenly hit me (about half an hour after posting my message) that I'd made some changes to my navigation scheme on the sections of the site where I was seeing a lot of hotel-booking ads. I'd removed nad consolidated some of the links to my hotel affiliate pages, which comprise only two- or three-tenths of a percent of my pages but were featured pretty heavily in my navigation links (possibly to the point where the tail might have been appearing to wag the dog).

Now that there are fewer navigation links with the word "hotels," I'm seeing fewer hotel-booking ads and more ads for tours, airline and travel-agency destination packages, etc. because the AdSense bot no longer thinks my pages are about hotels. That's just what I'd like to see, because I prefer not to have AdSense competing with my affiliate links and I like offering my users a good, varied selection of relevant ads. I don't know what effect (if any) the change will have on my AdSense revenues, but with luck it will be positive.

IMHO, this just goes to show that "deoptimizing" pages can be useful in assuring a good mix of ads and, presumably, greater immunity from the too-many-advertising-eggs-in-one-basket effect.

jk3210

1:24 am on Nov 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I finally bit the bullet and removed the entire contents of my competitive ad filter, and I'm now showing a 36% increase in daily revenue with only a few arbitrageur sites showing up here and there. But, that appears to be due mainly to the deep pockets of *rbitz and *itysearch. When they run dry, I'm sure the arbitrageurs will again be at the door.

joeking

7:10 am on Nov 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I haven't really used my competitive ad filter - until last week I had two or three urls in it, genuine competitors. Then I pasted in about 50 "worst offenders" in the MFA stakes to see what difference it makes. Still waiting to see.

If the ads served are of poor quality, link through to MFA sites and offer surfers nothing of real value beyond more ads to click, then it is something Google should be doing something about IMHO. Otherwise it spirals downhill at increasing rates of velocity.

Competitive filters are one thing, but more quality control at Google's end would solve this problem overnight.

Thez

9:05 am on Nov 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I've seen a definate improvement in ad quality lately. Past 3 weeks I haven't done anything to change layout or updated site, but CTR is up from 1.6% to 2.3% and has stayed as such. The ads look good and are on topic to my pages.

Genuine1

1:54 pm on Nov 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Same here. CTR is the main reason for the improved income. And its because there are less shady ads and more real ones!

FortySomething

9:50 pm on Nov 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It's been OK for a while, but looking just now it's a complete mess. Absolutely no relevant ads at all!

swa66

12:30 am on Nov 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Ad quality changes over time, but the only solution to the crappy ads will be fro Google to either kick them out by banning them, or price them out of business. Personally I think the smartpricing is part of the core of the problem, if they play the algo they can lower the prices and we get more of their ads so they can play us more.
Pricing them out of business would be trivial:
  • associate adwords acounts with adsense accounts (easy: one comes from a site, the other points to that site)
  • Take a list of all incoming hits and their price paid to GOOG
  • Make sure the most rewarding outgoing hits are reduced in earning to below the incoming hits
    Result: no profit from "arbitrage".

    Those running worse scams; just ban them, set up and follow up on a reporting mechanism. If needed use the public at large or just use the publishers (but give us good tools, much better than the MSIE only preview tool).

    IMHO the smartpricing that was designed to keep the publishers under control is being used against the honest publishers by dishonest advertisers (most of those will then go on to be dishonest publishers as well).

    E.g. I'm still seeing an ad from a known spyware maker. I've reported them to Google, but unfortunately no action from their end. Apparently there is not enough evil in spyware.
    [Though if you google for their name, you find pages full of descriptions from antivirus vendors and methods to get rid of the stuff]

    Off to seek a windows PC to find the URL to add to the filter ...

    Although the filter is far from a good tool: if you ban the offenders that show up, you see them replaced by worse offenders (that's why I try not to do it anymore). But I just cannot justify to continue to run promotion for spyware makers either.

  • Genuine1

    12:44 am on Nov 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    You only see "worse" ads where there is either no inventory thats paying well or targeted well on that page/niche.

    europeforvisitors

    1:52 am on Nov 3, 2006 (gmt 0)



    IMHO the smartpricing that was designed to keep the publishers under control is being used against the honest publishers by dishonest advertisers (most of those will then go on to be dishonest publishers as well).

    How? Through phony conversion tracking? That's the only way advertisers could even theoretically influence smart pricing, but even then, it's unlikely to work because (a) smart pricing is based on more than conversion tracking, and (b) Google would have to be awfully dumb to make it easy for crooked advertisers to cheat both publishers and Google.

    calman

    4:47 am on Nov 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    I would have to agree that ad quality has improved.

    In my case it seems that the pool of advertisers in my niche seems to have increased markedly. Since this niche typically has a rather small pool of advertisers, changes are easy to notice.

    Whatever the situation, my CTR has increased approximately 20% in the last five weeks with a resulting increase in earnings. This change comes after a 14 month period in which CTR never varied more than approximately 5% in any given month.

    I have made no changes in AdSense configuration or site design which could have accounted for this sudden upswing in CTR.

    clickme

    5:27 am on Nov 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    I have to agree as well. My site on a small geographical area now displays add from only this area. Improved CTR and is a better fit for the site.

    gothwalk

    9:14 am on Nov 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    Ad quality has definitely risen on my sites, and both CTR and earnings are rising for me. I was away for most of October (and then running to catch up on stuff when I got back), so added no content, and it was my best month yet (up 15% on the previous best month). And then there was yesterday, easily my best day ever, exceeding all previous records by 37%.