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Just wondering why Google

does opposite to what they advise publishers?

         

ann

5:55 am on Sep 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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In the serps Google places paid ads on the RIGHT side of the page and yet they encourage publishers to use left side... Just wondering why.

Anyone have any ideas on this?

Ann

david_uk

6:19 am on Sep 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It's always possible that though they might think the ads work better on the left, they might prefer the look of the page with the ads on the right?

Besides, they are a search engine primarily and hopefully someone at Google still has the sense to realise that's why people come to Google - not to see wall to wall spam. They *might* just be showing a spark of sense in having search results in the top hotspot, and not the ads. If people got the idea that Google was now an ad display company and not a search engine they would migrate elsewhere PDQ.

Hopefully sense has prevailed somewhere in the depths of Google's surreal brain. I poersonally wouldn't read too much into where they place the ads on search pages!

ann

6:40 am on Sep 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Sense prevailing...at google? AH, you josh :)

That's one idea,(and thanks for responding), are there any more?

Ann

"Once upon a midnight dreary as I sat and pondered...."

joeking

8:36 am on Sep 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Google also say that one size does not fit all - test, test, test - and they no doubt do the most testing!

darkmage

8:39 am on Sep 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I think it might the classic publisher dilemma of Chinese Wall. In a nutshell, you divide up editorial and advertising into two separate groups. You give them rules. The major reason for this is you don't want advertisers to control editorial content because this leads to loss of independence and readership. So clearly Google, from day one, put ads on the right to distinguish paid and editorial (search) results. Also, I should point out that they have ads on the top of many searches too.

OK, now since Google does not control editorial on Adsense sites, they doesn't really care where the ads go – it doesn't affect the Google search engine. Well, as long as it is not deceptive (yadda yadda, see the Adsense TOS).

Quadrille

8:59 am on Sep 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Where do google encourage you put ads on the left?

They give info on likely 'prime readership spots' but it's entirely up to you whether you fill the visible screen with ads, pushing content 'below the fold' or feature your content with ads in 'second place'. Or something in between.

Every site makes their own editorial decisions, including such criteria as indicated above.

Personally, I think of the three major SEs, google has the balance of ad/editorial best, including both content and position. I find Yahoo! almost unbearable - and MSN is so inconsistent (they've even changed URL now - breaking domain management 101!). Dunno about Ask, I don't think I've been there since they sacked The Butler :)

ann

9:45 am on Sep 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I believe somewhere around the heat map? anyhoo, I don't know about the other engines, rarely visit them :)

It's almost 5 am so I better toddle off to bed now.

Ya'll hang in there and keep thinking.

Nighty night.

Ann

OptiRex

10:42 am on Sep 19, 2006 (gmt 0)



What about the blue block immediately above all the results? Classic leaderboard position.

One thing that the Google results page does, unlike many sites, is that it is elastic therefore all the ads are always seen, in fact the smaller one makes the browser window the more prominent the ads become.

Familiarity may also be the answer, users generally know exactly where everything is and where to look...maybe?

Khensu

10:51 am on Sep 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Actually I think it comes down to human nature.

The searcher hopes to find a really specific and interesting organic result to their query vs a canned commercial ad. I always burn down the regular results in hope of finding a real gem, then giveway to scan the ads as a second line alternative "well there could be something there" outlook.

I think if they messed with it that would take some of the adventure out of it.

They advise the reverse because the visitor already kinda has a basic idea about what sort of info you have, they just have to read it. So to wade through the ads first or during the expierience is more effective.

IMHO

[edited by: Khensu at 11:04 am (utc) on Sep. 19, 2006]

sailorjwd

12:19 pm on Sep 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I give Google a C- on landing page quality score.

Any site I go to that has the top 1/4 of the page and the whole right site covered in ads is suspect to me.

Combine that with the crud that floats to the top of the serps (I should know, my site is #1 all over the place) and what do you have? A bad user experience.

Google speaks with two tongues.

OK... rant done.

trillianjedi

1:25 pm on Sep 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Whilst Google do recommend the left hand column, they go on to say:-

While this heat map is useful as a positioning guideline, we strongly recommend putting your users first when deciding on ad placement. Think about their behavior on different pages, and what will be most useful and visible to them. You'll find that the most optimal ad position isn't always what you expect on certain pages.

europeforvisitors

2:56 pm on Sep 19, 2006 (gmt 0)



I think darkimage nailed it:

Google has a brand and a reputation to protect, so it needs to maintain visible separation between organic search results and paid ads.

Google doesn't need to worry about protecting Joe Publisher's brand and reputation, however: That's for Joe Publisher to do (or not, as Joe sees fit).

netmeg

4:25 pm on Sep 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Actually I thought I remembered seeing or hearing that Google was testing ads on the left too, but I could be wrong.