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Competitive Ad Filter

Is it broken?

   
5:02 pm on Sep 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi all,

I've been noticing that several competitive Urls that we've had blocked for some time are starting to show back up on the site. I've dumped the list for a couple of days, then put them back in, next day there back on the site! Is anyone else seeing this?

I'm beginning to think it's just there to make us "psychologically" feel better. It sure doesn't help the CTR!

5:08 pm on Sep 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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As far as I know, it's always worked fine for me.

Make sure that when you block a domain, you block "example.com" instead of "www.example.com" or "page.example.com" or "example.com/page".

5:23 pm on Sep 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I've been noticing that several competitive Urls that we've had blocked for some time are starting to show back up on the site.

Yes I've noticed this too! MFAs I've filtered the day before are still appearing today - that's more than 24 hrs. already. Filter not working anymore?!? CTR also the lowest in months!

5:31 pm on Sep 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Quoting from the AdSense Help Center:

It usually takes about 4 hours for your changes to take effect, so you'll continue to see ads for these sites on your pages for a little while. If filtered ads are still appearing after 12 hours, please contact us.

[google.com...]

ann

9:23 pm on Sep 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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What about the ones that come back after two or three weeks? I have had this happen and when I tried putting them in the filter it tells me that url is already filtered.

Crazy thing never has worked right.

Ann

2:58 am on Sep 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Look like it is not responsive as usual, some ads still pops up 24 hours later after set in the filter list.
3:15 am on Sep 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I've seen this too with one advertiser in particular. I think there may be something sneaky going on--that the URL we are seeing in the ad isn't the URL that's in Google's system? You would think that kind of thing would be caught automatically.

Or another thought: could these be case-sensitive? I thought they weren't, but this particular advertiser uses caps in their URL. Maybe I need to put them in the filter that way.

3:21 am on Sep 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Perphas follow the URL provided by the preview tools as that is the "official" in the AS inventory..... :P
3:26 am on Sep 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I don't know if this makes a difference, but when adding something to my list, I never go by the url in the PT. I always do right-click on the title of the ad, click on properties and then copy the host part of the url in "adurl=".

The filter cannot be case-sensitive, because you couldn't enter something into your filter list with upper-case letters even if you wanted to, it converts everything to lower-case when it saves your list.

All that being said, I too notice that very occasionally, the system displays an ad that's in my filter list. But then I refresh and the ad goes away and I don't notice it again. So, when this does happen, in my experience it's very transitory.

3:57 am on Sep 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi again all, and thanks for your responses.

hunderdown - This is something I've actually been noticing for quite sometime. It didnt' concern me as much before because to be honest with you I never made much with this site (lazy clickers no matter what you put on the page).

Recently our site was recognized by a major site and we've gotten the spotlight and a ton of daily traffic but it's only for one aweek. We're enjoying the traffic for all it's worth! I've only got the spotlight for a couple more days, and just wanted to get it while it's good.

I haven't use the www. and I have tried case sensitive entries. I've often wondered if it might be because there isn't enough advertisers for my niche?

5:04 am on Sep 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have noticed lately that I that blocked MFA's would keep displaying many hours after they have been added to the filter. This was not because of any mistake on my part as I double and tripple checked everything.

I know that Google has commented regarding ads apppearing for a few hours after they have been blocked, however last week I noticed that the delay had far exceed the delays I normally experience. I almost wrote to google about this last week.

6:57 am on Sep 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

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First, it has always taken for a few hours until the filter becomes active. I do not think this has changed.

Second, please make absolutely sure that you are just filtering the domains presented in the Preview Tool. Do not go by the domains in the ad copy - they are useless for blocking. Several advertisers are still using redirects towards other domains, in other words: the ad says "www.widget.com", but the click goes to "www.widgettracker.com" which redirects to "www.widget.com". So, blocking widget.com is effectively useless.

7:44 am on Sep 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The filter does not work perfectly. One needs to keep revisiting and adding same URL's again and again for it to stay effective.

I have also noticed this trend over the last 2-3 months.

5:14 am on Sep 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The filter is not working for me either. I have several ads I want blocked that are showing up. I checked the URLs using the preview tool, blocked the exact URL and they still show up even a day later.
5:52 am on Sep 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I've noticed it might take that long sometimes.

Also, beware of "scammy" urls. It's best to only cut-and-paste the host part of a url without the "www" part. But I have one scammy url in my list who's host is [something like] www-scammyhost.com. When I originally filtered this ad, I entered it as scammyhost.com and then couldn't figure out why it wasn't filtering.

I also have a scammy url in my list that is [something like] vvidget.com. It's a common, recognizable English word you'd expect would start with a w, but theirs is 2 v's.

These guys get sneaky, so beware!

6:17 am on Sep 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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One thing I'd look at is the URL. Right click on the ad, and copy the URL to notepad (don't click it!)

Some ads employ redirects making them very hard to block. The beginning of the url will have [pagead2.googlesyndication.com...] and the end of the line will be another URL (the landing page) appended with &client=ca-pub-(your client ID here).

That is easy to block as it's just a case of blocking the domain EG spammymfa.com. One problem is that advertisers keep channging the url as we block them.

In some cases, you will see another URL (or more than one) part way between the two listed above. This may indicate a redirect. Add that domain to the filter as well. I'd also click on the ads by google at the top of the ad block and report that link to Google as a sneaky redirect. I've seen a couple of ads dissapear by doing this.

If you can't easily block them they are either changing their landing page / domain which you can't do anything about unfortunately, which is why we are asking for blocking by advertiser. If it's a sneaky redirect adwords may well remove the ad if you notify them.

6:27 am on Sep 8, 2006 (gmt 0)



If a person was using a Mac what would be the safe way to find out the URL of the offending ad? Right Click is not an option for the Mac.

Mike

6:32 am on Sep 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Sorry - can't help you there pal! I've only got a PC.
6:07 pm on Sep 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I thought macs had a key modifier for a click that simulates a right click

don't try it on an ad but you can test it on any other link

ctrl + click
apple key + click

or other, can't remember what it is

11:47 pm on Sep 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yeah, I thought it was "Apple-key"+click (but I don't have a Mac here either...)

Meanwhile, back on topic...

Coincidentally to this thread, starting yesterday I am getting a new ad in Norwegian (my site is in English the USA) which is related to my niche but nevertheless is in Norwegian. I filtered it yesterday afternoon and it's still showing now, more than 24 hours later.

ASA, is this normal, or is there a box somewhere in the plex that you can give a kick?

12:04 am on Sep 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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System 9 & 10 have a right click type menu. (yes we borrowed the one quality feature from the PC)

Man, I can't remember if it is contol or command and click the mouse. I have been on this clunky shifting Chevy (PC) so long I can't remember!(my G3 powerbook died last year, it was #233 of the first run) Can't wait November when I can get my new Apple Pro powerbook, I mean Delorian.

Viva la Adsense!

I always love when the PC boots. The hard drive sound like a hen house full of chickens pecking up corn kernels off a wooden floor.

The new macs just go, vooooooooooome...

[edited by: Khensu at 12:13 am (utc) on Sep. 9, 2006]

12:16 am on Sep 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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My latest Mac came with an aftermarket mouse that allows left- and right-clicking.
12:54 am on Sep 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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[... If a person was using a Mac what would be the safe way to find out the URL of the offending ad? Right Click is not an option for the Mac.... ]

I have been with a 5-buttuns+wheel mouse for my Mac for years, do upgrade .... :P

[edited by: GoldenHammer at 12:55 am (utc) on Sep. 9, 2006]

1:50 am on Sep 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Then you need to bookmark it first. Then you view the (really long) URL it points to, and cut away the extra code before and after the basic place it points to. Once you've done that, open the bookmark.
1:59 pm on Sep 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Watch for dashes also. I thought I had a domain blocked and saw it again today. After looking closer at it I realized it was www- NOT www.
2:11 pm on Sep 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Beat me to it. I noticed a couple sites playing the "-" vs "." game a month or so ago. There are probably some other tricks along the lines of subtle misspellings that most of us would currect without thinking when adding the sites to the filter.
9:32 pm on Sep 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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As if it wasn't enough taking from our site development and family time to block the damn parasites, they re-appear again?

Also who do we talk to to make the filter list limitless?
Why 200, why not 250? 300? 500? infinite?

AdSenseAdvisor, are you still here?
Your profile [webmasterworld.com...] is giving a 404 error.

10:29 am on Sep 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Correction, there is an AdSenseAdvisor among us
correct profile url:
[webmasterworld.com...]

that was close!

3:50 pm on Sep 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Google AdSense please make the filter list limitless!

Help us to not display these garbage in our sites.

6:19 pm on Sep 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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let's hear some more voices for unlimited filter.
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