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How to Fight Back Against AdSense Policies & Smart Pricing

The Solution is Simple

         

incrediBILL

7:30 pm on Aug 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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For the record, this is not a disgruntled post.

I'm very happy with Google as they sent me gifts for Xmas, large checks every month, and earlier this month invited me to their Google Dance party with free food, booze and a rocking band.

However, others seem to always be down on Google, while at the same time making money from Google and cashing those checks. I'm completely amazed about all the posts complaining about everything Google does with AdSense when the solution is so simple: QUIT

If you don't like smart pricing: QUIT

If you think your payouts are too low: QUIT

If you don't like the MFA sites: QUIT

If you don't like "Ads by Goooooogle": QUIT

See?

That was easy wasn't it.

David_UK did it to combat smart pricing:
[webmasterworld.com...]

These same discussions on the same topics have been going round and round for two years now that I've been watching and it's obvious that Google will do what Google wants to do and nothing has changed on these topics, total waste or time.

So you can either live with the status quo, which you've been doing regardless of all the complaining, or QUIT.

Personally, I look at my bottom line, not MFA sites, not "Ads by Goooooogle", or any other distraction as the other nonsense isn't impacting my bottom line unless I waste time letting it impact my bottom line. If Google becomes statistically irrelevant in my monthly income then they'll be tossed aside as easily as I dropped Decommissioned Junction and others from the site.

The point is, you can debate these topics until you're blue in the face but the only way to truly impact the situation is to VOTE WITH YOUR FEET and QUIT and tell them why you quit when you drop them.

However, you may be one of a statistically insignificant group that QUITS as there are a lot of people, the usual short list of complainers notwithstanding, that are very happy with the returns from AdSense.

I would suggest put more focus on the positive things you can change to improve your income and waste less time on those things that are beyond your control.

Yippee

1:26 am on Aug 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I say Amen to this thread... Big picture and bottom line is where publishers should focus. G pays out based on what you are worth to them, and NOT what "you" think you are doing for them...

While every one is crying and whining on here cuz of poor earnings, I consistently enjoy steady eCPM, CTR, and all the other status. To the point that I see smart pricing trying hard to make up for slow days. Furthermore, I will join the band wagon of telling the publishers that are not enjoying their adsense tenure, quit hacking, cheating, controling it, and checking it every 2 minutes... Just let the dag on thing fly and focus on bringing visitors to your invention. Whether you like it or not, if you are dreaming that adsense will prosper and retire you, then I will guarandamntee it that your site is based on one principle, how many ad clicks you generate and NOT what value you bring to your visitors. Your invention is what will make you rich, not Google. Big brother sees that, and if you don't like it, VOTE WITH YOUR FEET (as Bill so gracefully put it)...

[edited by: Yippee at 1:30 am (utc) on Aug. 29, 2006]

Scurramunga

1:45 am on Aug 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Furthermore, I will join the band wagon of telling the publishers that are not enjoying their adsense tenure, quit hacking, cheating, controling it...

Really?
I don't recall too many posts where members have asked advice regarding hacking or cheating.

As far as "controlling" is concerned, I think you are "telling" us to quit optimising. Nothing wrong with optimisation as long as it's not black hat. The heatmap that Google publishes and the blogs about blending all fall under the optimisation category. Controlling dodgy advertisers is another form of optimisation.

[edited by: Scurramunga at 1:50 am (utc) on Aug. 29, 2006]

GoldenHammer

2:33 am on Aug 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

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[...While every one is crying and whining on here cuz of poor earnings, I consistently enjoy steady eCPM, CTR, and all the other status. To the point that I see smart pricing trying hard to make up for slow days. Furthermore, I will join the band wagon of telling the publishers that are not enjoying their adsense tenure, quit hacking, cheating, controling it, and checking it every 2 minutes... ]

*****

I think most members involved in this thread are serious publishers, they are likely to give their views in respect to the current situation and maybe somewhat expressing their disappointment. That is actually a valuable feedback to Google though that may not in their expected taste.... :P

Your post expresses the fact that the significant difference in tone and view point of publishers in classification (well, you are probably a lucky one, still consistently enjoy steady eCPM, CTR, and all the other status.

A rational publisher regardless of their classification or earning should have the risk awareness prepare for a possible impact. As a market space over the internet of evolving technologies and human behaviours, it runs well today doesn't necessary imply it will run well tomorrow. It does matter to all publishers, not only to specific publishers (in fact, the higher of earning, the more risk to have).

incrediBILL

3:06 am on Aug 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

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the higher of earning, the more risk to have

Also the most likely to have a huge AdSense nest egg built in preparation for the bubble to burst unless they are financially frivolous which will be their ultimate undoing in the long run.

Every month my AdSense revenues just keep piling up earning interest until I need to tap it for basic neccessities of living...

... like a new digital camera or a plasma TV... ;)

goubarev

7:48 pm on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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rbacal, I'm sorry, that was the dummest thing I've done in a long time... deleted the original post...

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[edited by: goubarev at 8:09 pm (utc) on Aug. 30, 2006]

rbacal

7:51 pm on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)



Since you've asked - I did QUIT in Jan 06... for my personal business site... and it didn't do a smallest darn difference sales-wise!

Err...that's fine, but you might have missed the fact that all the messages in this thread are about adsense, not adwords?!?!

old_expat

3:26 am on Aug 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

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On a side note, I would almost say that those that are complaining about MFA's being advertised on their site are at that point no different then the MFA's since they are more concerned about the price of the click they recieve and less concerned that a visitor is at their site looking at their content.

I was with you until you said this.

I go through my sites periodically and look at what ads are showing. If something turns me off, I figure it might turn off a user. So I put it in the competitive filter.

My sites were serving users before Adsense came along.

old_expat

3:40 am on Aug 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I think those people get caught thinking because they happened to be successful with what is really junk sites, ...

If a successful site can be junk .. um .. now wait a minute .. er .. antique site .. um .. no, wait ..

How about a redesign of your value filter?

Eliteism filter?

<not sarcasm/irony, just pure nasty satire>

DamonHD

7:09 am on Aug 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi old_expat,

"Nasty" satire? You're FAR too nice to qualify for that!

I do like the elitism filter idea. Not allowed into the club until you have a double-barrelled name, £1m in your trust account, a "posh" accent, the ability to party like it's 1999, etc.

Regrettably I fail several of those... Bv<

But seriously, I am in favour of an editorial judgement of quality, which is bound to be somewhat subjective.

Rgds

Damon

[edited by: DamonHD at 7:10 am (utc) on Aug. 31, 2006]

zoggle

7:24 am on Aug 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

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... Big picture and bottom line is where publishers should focus.

Right! I now have a big leaderbord (3rd Ad block) at the bottom of my pages where they're set as "image". Let's see what happens ;-)

old_expat

12:26 pm on Aug 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

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But seriously, I am in favour of an editorial judgement of quality, which is bound to be somewhat subjective.

Yep!;)

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