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Not too bad, isn't it? From some easy speculation I think this website is earning way more than a million $$$ per month.
That's all folks. Follow the rules.
If so then Google is seeing all the ads requested and clicked from the same IP, no money for the site owner there.
By the way: I forgot to mention that AdSense ads open in a new window :-)
[edited by: elfred at 2:59 pm (utc) on Aug. 6, 2006]
There's NO way regular publishers would be able to do this without being easily caught and banned. It could be a premium publisher, depending on the site, but it seems more likely that they're using a different ad provider.
I even thought that there were scheduled clicks (must be my imagination) because ads that I have removed were seen to be clicked on hours later but complaining doesn't help, all clicks are valid was the reply.
this is a bit confusing... google allows you to use an ad server, which would cover up any link to adsense or your pub i.d.
What do you mean by this? Is using no border and not pointing out these things are ads wrong? It shows the "ads by gooogle" thing, no?
You're saying I can't make my adsense ads look like a normal link using the editor on the adsense control panel?
I've been doing that for quite a while, never even thought i was doing something wrong, but was I wrong? Sorry for spoiling the topic, just got really spooked....
JOMAXX:
if you look at the HTML for the standard AdSense that standard users have you will see an URL. Now, to that URL you simply have to prepend your personal website name followed by some "/rd?". That's how the link looks like.
ALEX_MILES:
give me some hint. Let's see if you guessed :-)
OGLETREE:
the question here is: I assume that AdSense rules are there to keep the whole adsense community (publishers and advertisers) on the right path. When some small entity deviate from the path they are banned and, basically, nobody was ever influenced by the glitch. If big players can use all sorts of forbidden things, than the community is altered. I don't know which is the english for it, but we say that "somebody is more equal than others". I think you read all the forbidden things I found on a single page. Some things that are forbidden to standard publisher are not to premium ones, but only because the premium ones are good enough to use things on the edge, but still on the legal side. I mean: we all know that there is a mistake in the GOOGLE SEARCH code that doesn't validate with W3C and that we can't fix it because we're not allowed to alter the code. A premium publisher will likely be allowed to change that code.
DANIMAL:
Let me explain: I can use JS to show AdSense on my page formatting it however I like (like any premium publisher) and after Google has approved it on a test page. My JS (client-side) asks AdSense for the ads and then it formats them. Are you sure that Google allows me to use as the destination URL any URL which is not the one returned to my JS? If you can tell me where this rule is than you made my day because I will be able, with a simple redirecting URL, to track every single click!
JINXBOY:
when a premium publisher uses JS, the ads are queried client side. It is the user's computer that asks for the ads. This means that, if JS is not enabled, the user won't see the ads. The website I'm talking about is putting the ads directly in the HTML. For example: if I open my own website in a text based linux window I won't see the ads. If I open THE website, I see them, because they are in the HTML. Not only the ads are shown to ALL users, including those with blocks, firewalls, no JS and the likes, but the ads might have been hand picked by any kind of script. Since the landing URL is redirected through a website's link they know which ads are clicked the most. They can show always the most clicked ones, or do anything else.
When I first started with adsence, I asked them could i use target="_blank" to open in a new window, but they said No, that no altering of the code will be tolerated.
Thats had me paranoid since....
It can be easy to hide the "adds by google" section, even if its just with an absolutly positioned bit of graphic.
But I never did that either ......
Now we find that another site, is creaming it in by doing the tricks that I was threatened with expulsion for....
that really sucks....
Thanks.
:) Y
They also highlight the ads to draw attention to them with individual attention getters (little .gifs) for each ad, including, believe it or not, a numerical rating for each advertiser.
They also change the ad content itself, highlighting keywords within the ad text and headline.
They correctly identify (on the single page I looked at!) that the ad block as "Sponsored Links", but do that in a headline that looks like this: "stores selling widgets (Sponsored Links)"
All of this is pretty shady stuff, IMHO. If I were an advertiser, and my ads were being changed and highlighted and rated vis a vis my competition..... I might go ballistic.
From another AdSenser's point of view? Good luck to'em! Unless it ruins the program because advertisers get ticked off.
Oh yeah, didn't I just say that?
i use phpadsnew, but since you can't alter the adsense ad itself, it's not possible to track the clicks with that particular ad server.
people on adsense forums have talked about legally tracking adsense clicks with other software, but i've never done it.
what rons posted is disturbing, to say the least.
Each publisher agrees to rules when they join. Premium Publishers and DomainPark publishers just agree to different rules than other publishers.
I don't see this as a problem to the adsense program, as each has a different purpose and intent.
Quite clever.
Guess the website
I'm still guessing. I know you can't drop URLs, but can you give a clue?
P.S.: EFV, you should have a PM.
[edited by: elfred at 8:38 am (utc) on Aug. 8, 2006]
