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New stats are forthcoming...

Tidbits from PubCon

         

Jenstar

9:50 am on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Google AdSense will be releasing new stats for publishers "very soon". While they haven't announced exactly what all stats are included, they will blow everything else out of the water.

I am guessing they will be offering stats broken down into individual domains and possibly (hopefully!) broken down to a page level, so publishers know exactly what pages are getting the best CTR and EPC.

Offering stats in a graphical format would also be something publishers would find useful.

If these stats are as comprehensive as it sounds like they will be, it will save publishers from having to mess around with third party scripts and tools, especially since some of them violate the AdSense TOS.

I know many are looking forward to a variety of new stats. What other sorts of stats do publishers want on their AdSense stat wish list?

Chndru

8:23 pm on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>desktop

How abt on Toolbar (just like blocked 6765 pop-ups)

Earned $233.56 today.

wonderboy

9:01 pm on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I want $233.56 per day please. =)

Having that info on the G toolbar would be useful, and save me five minutes every day, but I still think I would want to click on it to check clicks, impressions, CTR etc...

W.

Fiver

9:47 pm on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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icedowl

That suggestion makes perfect sense, I hope it becomes incorporated.

Real time stats is one thing, and would require quite a beefy setup on google's end - but simply telling us what time frame our stats 'so far today' represent would do the trick nicely for me, with nary a penny spent by google. I believe it would save them a lot of log-in for two seconds bandwidth.

/off to go log in for two seconds.

TheFounder

4:27 pm on Mar 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Is anyone getting "- No data available -" for their reports?

Powdork

5:46 pm on Mar 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I was, up until recently. Now it shows about 1/10th of the day's impressions. Nothing to worry about though. Yet

Macro

6:44 pm on Mar 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Is anyone getting "- No data available -" for their reports?

Yes. And stats have been wonky for a few days now.

My biggest wish at this point is for AdsenseAdvisor to come and tell us what the problem is and when it will be rectified. Impressions, clicks and earnings are being carried forward over days, sometimes over several days. Stats are not updating properly. It's 12 hours into today but still no stats. That's becoming a regular "feature" now. And there are all kinds of things that prevent many of your visitors from seeing the ads. I occasionally access my site from another PC at home or another office and find that I can't see any of the ads.

AdsenseAdvisor, any comment on the broken stats?

globay

7:11 pm on Mar 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My biggest wish at this point is for AdsenseAdvisor to come and tell us what the problem is and when it will be rectified.

Yes, that would be great!

I have been checking my stats twice as often as I did during the last months hoping to finally see the new stats, just to find out, that stats had not been updated in hours. (And I used to check my stats about every hour!)

globay

7:16 pm on Mar 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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<conspiracy theory>
May be thats why stats are so much delayed: All the webmasters checking for new stats twice as often and thus increasing the server load, prevent Google from generating the stats!
</conspiracy theory>

;-)

div01

2:23 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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These new reports...are they here yet?

Macro

9:01 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The thread was started on Mar 4 and says:

Google AdSense will be releasing new stats for publishers "very soon".

I suppose it depends on what Google mean by "very soon". Going by the problems we've been having lately I'll be very surprised if they'll be released in the next week or two. Google, prove me wrong, please.

Last year Ad-sonar said something similar about their launch but to them "very soon" meant a long, long time. In Jan there was a thread saying "due in the middle of Jan". Promise. Hmm. Even the middle of Jan turned out to be a period that lasted several months :-)

Jenstar

10:43 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>Going by the problems we've been having lately I'll be very surprised if they'll be released in the next week or two.

I am wondering if the reason we're seeing problems IS because they are going to be released soon. There has always been major issues with severely delayed stats before changes in the control panel in AdSense and/or Adwords.

spikedo55

8:30 pm on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I think Google is trying to wean us off of checking stats throughout the day. A few weeks ago, stats were down for a few hours a day. Now, they now only update every 12 hours or so. Is it a trend? Maybe or maybe not, but definitely more food for thought.

Chndru

8:44 pm on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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What is the use of real-time (or even once in 4-hr) reporting? AFAIK, none.

icedowl

8:54 pm on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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What is the use of real-time (or even once in 4-hr) reporting? AFAIK, none.

I think it would be of use if you happened to make changes to your site or the AdSense colors.

Chndru

8:55 pm on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>AdSense colors

You dont change it with real-time/one-hr-delayed stats anyway.

wonderboy

10:50 pm on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Maybe the bigger sites who earn big bucks out of adsense, and for some use it as their only source of income would like to keep in touch with how their business is running on a more regular basis than 1 or 2 times a day.

The advantage of more in depth real time stats is that is gives site owners an indication of 'hotspots' on their site, at the moment it is all guesswork, but with the 'proposed' real time stats you would be able to keep in touch with your business throughout the day.

I know if it was putting food in my mouth and clothes on my back I would want a comprehensive reporting system to help me see what I can do better, even the slightest change can help earn a significant amount of money in one day.

W.

crxchaos

2:21 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Loanuniverse,

My bet is for 19th March 2004. Since I've just noticed Google is giving me a 502 when trying to view my stats I'm crossing my fingers in the hope they're rolling out the update :)

cyanweb

2:35 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yep - getting Server Error message - it's already the 19th here - in Australia :)

Though I've gotten Server Error a few times over last month or so...

Jon_King

2:36 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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crxchaos,
I was thinking the same thing.

Jon_King

2:45 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Well, I'm back in. Nothing new added to stats. Shoot.

cyanweb

2:57 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Maybe just installing bit by bit preparing / testing for rollout... as mentioned the "Server Error" appearing 3-4 times in last few weeks... though I would think if Google were stopping system to load new features it would put up "Temporarily Unavailable" instead of "Server Error"

USDaddict

2:58 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)



The new stats are now live :)

lorenzinho2

3:00 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yes, stats by channel now.

Jon_King

3:16 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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OK. New stats, you have to install code on your pages....

cyanweb

5:22 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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missed that - I figured it would be annouced after loggin in :-) - I saw old Feb Announcement and nothing new... but it's there now! Looks great - yeah - a bit of code swapping to do - and detail level sounds good so far...

[edited by: cyanweb at 6:00 am (utc) on Mar. 19, 2004]

Rodney

5:29 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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loanuniverse wrote [webmasterworld.com]:


dazzlindonna 3/8/2004
jimbo_mac 3/8/2004
olias 3/11/2004
sharper 3/11/2004
WebRankInfo 3/15/2004
zola 3/16/2004
novice 3/19/2004
penfold25 3/20/2004
trillianjedi 3/25/2004
jettie 3/27/2004
my2cents 3/28/2004
floridasun 4/1/2004
KakenBetaal 4/3/2004
icedowl 4/06/2004
onfire 4/19/2004
freejung 4/20/2004
ganderla 05/08/2004
loanuniverse 5/24/2004

< conspiracy theory >

Nobody picked 3/18/2004 in the "pool". Maybe today was picked to make sure nobody at WW "won" ;)

< / conspiracy theory >

cyanweb

6:01 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Seems only 20 channels allowed - I have over 28 different web sites so it is limited... :(

novice 3/19/2004 got it right for us Oz Siders :)

onfire

7:37 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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ummmm i see its says the 18th

loanuniverse

7:44 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The Stats are out and the winner is novice.

Congratulations!

While nobody got the exact date right, novice was off by only a couple of hours.

Now that I think about it, his method for picking the date was as close to well thought out as any other:


I'll take 3/19/04. The last update for more formats was on the the 19th of February.
I'm sure there was much research and statistical analysis that made the phd's at Google determine that the 19th was the optimum date to release new updates or maybe they just picked that day out Google Guys hat;)

This means that from now on, everyone will look forward to the 19s of every month :lol:

yump

7:58 am on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>cyanweb
But at least you can now test a theory on a group of pages. Up till now its just been one person's experience vs. another's with regard to where to put them, what colour to use......
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