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(I don't know if there's anything in the TOS about putting AdSense on pages that are not accessible to MediaBot.)
Whether or not they can make an exception in your case is something you should probably take up with them.
What if I embed an iFrame instead? I could have an iframe with a proper title and meta tags, embed the AdSesnse script there, and then just include the iframe in the private page. :)
... Making a crawling exception for google unfortunately isn't an option here.
Making a crawling exception for google unfortunately isn't an option here.
Have you consider using some other kind of ads for those pages? You'll have to pick them yourself but it's really the only thing you can do if you aren't willing to give Google access.
Not to roll dark clouds over your issue but if this isn't against the publisher's TOS it certainly ought to be.
I'd make a careful read of the TOS before continuing with this.
So, your opinion is that there shouldn't ever be advertisements in the "MY" section of a website?
Hmm. Just out of curiosity, why would Google or another advertising network really care what's on the page, so long as they're getting their click and making money. Isn't that more my perrogative as the publisher?
PS = the reason that I don't want to give Google AdBot access is because it would take a LOT of work and would probably eat up the money made from the community section for many months to come. I'm using a Tomcat Realm and making such exceptions does not appear to be very easy. :(
[edited by: cabbagehead at 8:30 pm (utc) on June 11, 2006]
opinion is that there shouldn't ever be advertisements in the "MY" section of a website?
Clearly such would be the case for editorial standards, if not an outright ban. I can see ads running on a paid subscription "member's only" online magazine or newspaper of known quality: WSJ or like magazine.
I cannot see such a rule as being rational for "run of the network" websites. In a run-of-network scenario "member only-ing" would likely be the next small step in making the detection of fraud slightly more difficult.
Maybe I'm just a bit more cautious then they are, as I haven't reviewed the TOS to see if there's any language that specifically prohibits such deployments. I'd suggest you take a read. What I am saying is that if there isn't such precautions built into the TOS that failing to do so is an invitation to one more form of gaming the system - by making it just a little harder to see what's actually going on.
why would Google or another advertising network really care what's on the page, so long as they're getting their click and making money.
Maybe because the 50% of the people who are not clicking are - or would be - deeply offended by what IS on the page. Maybe if news of "what's going on behind the curtain and closed doors" leaked out (remember, no editorial controls here) the #%*! would hit the fan.
I can think of lots of reason's why, in an un-edited, otherwise unscruntiized publisher system allowing the placement of the content behind a curtain is an invitation to advertiser outrage.
But, perhaps I'm unreasonably cautious. Like I said: Read the TOS closely and let us know if there's any language in the Adsense TOS that might suggest it's not wholly acceptable.
Here's some operative language that, whilst fairly broad and a reading of a "bar to use" is by implication only, I can see a basis for saying "ask, if in doubt":
AdSense for Content. . . . You acknowledge and agree that Ads and/or Links: (i) shall only be displayed in connection with the Site(s), each of which is subject to review and approval by Google in its discretion at any time;
Certainly, one can't examine a password protected area of a website "at any time", unless the reviewer is an approved member. That's a lot of extra work for the Adsense team, to keep track of all those passwords. ;)
I'm just having some fun with this conceptually and policy rational wise (or unwise :) , imagining all the ways this might not work. I'm certain IF it works it likely works well most of the time (most people aren't coniving fraudsters) and therefore this may be perfectly acceptable.)
Still, I'd like to see a definitive answer if - or when - Adsense can be run behind the curtains.
You grant Google the right to access, index and cache the Site(s), or any portion thereof, including by automated means including Web spiders or crawlers.
This idea is problematic for Google, but it's also totally opposite to the way AdSense works, which is to show ads relevant to what's on the page -- not based on whatever helpful keyword suggestions you want to offer.
why would Google or another advertising network really care what's on the page, so long as they're getting their click and making money. Isn't that more my perrogative as the publisher?
