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Keano16

8:57 pm on May 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

We are having lots of problems with click-attacks. It all started in the begining of this year. We had attack one day and that was it.

Now in last 10 days 3 of our sites are under attack. Attacker is obviously someone close to us, that knows what are we doing and how are we doing it.

We even suspect who is he but we will not mention his name because we are not 100% sure.

Problem is we cannot do anything to stop him... When we removed ads from our pages, he started to attack us using Google Cache versions of our sites.

We have informed Google about this case, supplied them with server logs, his IP address, network name, etc., even reported him to his ISP, but what else is in our power?

We are decent AdSense publisher for one and a half year, and this situation is very hard to us.

please help us and give some advices.

Thanks!

[edited by: jatar_k at 9:05 pm (utc) on May 31, 2006]

incrediBILL

11:49 am on Jun 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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He told me I need to make public apology to him and then he will stop clicking.

If you're both in the U.S. I'd head over to your local police and file charges for extortion/blackmail/fraud and see how funny he thinks it is paying legal fees to get out of that mess.

But that's just me, and I'm one angry person when someone pulls that crap.

Just ask the people that served me C&D's with checks attached after screwing me over on a few business deals after I went after them like salt on a snail ;)

FYI, for those that asked, NOARCHIVE is the ONLY WAY TO LIVE!

Search engines should NEVER EVER EVER be allowed to cache your pages and I could fill up a small paperback book with reasons starting with scrapers and ending with spybots, you just have to trust me on this one as it's been part of my last 6 months of research.

CACHE BAD - NOARCHIVE GOOD - Learn it, Live it, Love it.

Keano16

8:45 am on Jun 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Apology has been issued. Please don't click any more...

Member02

5:16 am on Jun 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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incrediBILL

Does the NOARCHIVE effect any negative result in search rankings? or any other negative aspects that we should be aware of?

Thanks

a1domain

6:56 am on Jun 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Same This Thing is happen to me and my account disable from google, and thay shows invalid clicks reason for that so wishing good luck that google may not disable your account

whatsdoin

7:13 am on Jun 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Incredible tip from Incredbill:)..you gotta love the forums members.

I also would like to know will this affect search engine rankings etc.?

Also Keano16...there are anti /click/fraud scripts you can incorporate into your sites..I know Big Mike does this on his sites...others might know more.

incrediBILL

5:19 pm on Jun 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Does the NOARCHIVE effect any negative result in search rankings?

Not that I've ever seen and I've been using NOARCHIVE for quite some time.

It doesn't tell the search engine not to index your site, it tells the search engine not to make your pages publicly available as "cache" in their sites. When people can't view your "cache" in the search engine it stops people from gaining access to your content without your knowledge.

The other upside is outdated information is never stored anywhere so when you fix critical errors in information, say product pricing or something, there is no record of the mistake hanging around waiting to be updated by the next crawl.

FWIW, the real problem is how long it will take all the search engines to reindex all of your pages before all cache is fully eliminated. The solution should be a global directive in robots.txt so you can disable cached pages site wide with one command and not page-by-page. I've still got a few random pages showing up with "cache" in the SE's as they have only covered about 96% of my website in a year.

Member02

10:48 pm on Jun 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the information incrediBILL,

Can you tell us how to do this “robots.txt” you mentioned? I’m not familiar with it, can you please explain further, and how to implement it?

Thanks

jatar_k

11:02 pm on Jun 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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try our robots.txt Forum [webmasterworld.com]

incrediBILL

1:02 am on Jun 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Can you tell us how to do this “robots.txt” you mentioned?

I said it NEEDS to be a part of robots.txt, it's currently not an option.

That was more of a wish-list thought than anything.

Aircut

1:25 am on Jun 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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is this a joke? you are issuing an apology to "some person?"

i want names....lol

jatar_k

3:12 am on Jun 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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in case anyone is confused

no names thanks

Keano16

10:10 pm on Jun 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Site again attacked, even though I issued apology (and again, it never had a reason to issue one:( ).

If you are reading this, please stop attacking ...

incrediBILL

10:13 pm on Jun 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Just block the IP's these guys are using, assuming it's coming fromt the same place(s) every time.

Keano16

10:21 pm on Jun 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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He told me on MSN messenger (from fake email address): that he has my AdSense code... and that he will stop when I issue apology (even I don't know aplogy for what)...

Juan_G

12:02 am on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Maybe you can try the open source tracker adlogger, with a php option to prevent click fraud and click attacks by disabling ads for a visitor if he is clicking too many. I haven't tested that open source code, but it seems a good idea up to some point.

However, if your ad code is on a domain out of your control, you need to notify it to AdSense support, of course.

harpoon

3:22 am on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Contact the FBI. Threats, stalking, harassment etc is illegal.

jomaxx

5:20 am on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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This is getting ridiculous. If it's really happening at all, stop posting about it and wait for the idiot to get bored. In the meantime keep Google in the loop whenever you see unusual activity, and keep permanent records of everything.

Moosetick

9:58 pm on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Bill,
How does the NOARCHIVE work with images? Will the search engines still display thumbnails of your images in their results or not?
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