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Can you nest the google_ad_section_start/end tags?

Really need to kill a much used word from being indexed

         

mistergin

12:16 am on Mar 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I've been having a problem with a particular word, in my case "test" from bringing over too many "bad" advertisers.

I did some searches for alternatives and exam is almost as bad but not quite - however, all instances of "test" still can't be replaced due to the fit they have in the page.

So, I went through and tossed in the google_ad_section_end(weight=ignore) tags around just about every "test" I could find.

the only problem is that some of these were nested within other start/end tags for google.

Will this still work? I wish we could give Google a few words NOT to index, but hey, best we can do is work around that, right :)

OptiRex

1:22 am on Mar 31, 2006 (gmt 0)



Heck, I'm dumb (yeah, you all knew that anyway)! I've had a beer...

I haven't a clue what's being asked here...?

danimal

1:26 am on Mar 31, 2006 (gmt 0)



i suspect that he is referring to mfa's and junk adwords advertisers, because that pond scum uses any keyword they want in their ads... in his case, they are using "test".

he needs to use the filter for that trash.

sven1977

12:47 pm on Mar 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

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No he's asking whether you can do the following:

<!-- google adsection start -->

blabla

<!-- google adsection start(weight=ignore) -->
test exam test test exam
<!-- google adsection end -->

blabla

<!-- google adsection end -->

the tags are not the real ones. I forgot what they look like exactly.

I do not know whether that's possible. I don't feel like these tags are working well anyway (even without nesting).
Can you ask google and then reply here? Would be of general interest.

mistergin

3:53 pm on Mar 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I think I'm going to do that, I was really curious myself.

And for the reason I need to do this - I have a web application that isn't really getting many relevant ads. I was getting a lot for pregnancy tests and other general kinds of tests.

Googling for strings with "test" in them also brought up these adwords on google, so I'm drawing the conclusion that it's the heavy overuse of the word "test" on my site that's doing it. I wanted ot wrap these around every "test" I could find so that it would focus on the other words on my site.

Unfortunately, "quiz" and/or "exam" only go so far, "test" is still the best general word for the ... well.. word ;)

I'll post as soon as I hear back, thanks for all of the help guys!

mistergin

8:53 pm on Apr 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Per google:

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Hello,

Unfortunately, nesting the tags the way you mention probably won't work. I
also don't recommend using the tags to ignore a single word; that may
alert our crawlers to turn all the tags off completely. If you're getting
irrelevant ads, send us screenshots, and we'll see if we can improve our
ad targeting, or if not, we'll send the examples to our engineers.

Sincerely,

David
The Google AdSense Team

bumpski

11:07 am on Apr 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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At least as of a couple of months ago I found the (weight=ignore) section did exactly the opposite.


<!-- google_ad_section_start(weight=ignore) -->
Text to ignore, I think NOT!
<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

I had surrounded one paragraph with a topic I definitely wanted to de-emphasize, but instead I got even more ads on the topic. I had triple checked the syntax. I even "cut and paste" right from Google's example, to be absolutely sure. I checked my HTML source, once published, to be sure it was correct. Still more ads not less. There was no nesting involved in the "weight=ignore" section it simply appears to act like a targeted section.

Google's help on the topic:
[google.com...]

Nesting, if it worked, would be very useful for highly structured site and page designs.

21_blue

12:30 pm on Apr 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



mistergin, you've been hit by "poison words" that open the door for MFA ads to invade your site. See a previous thread [webmasterworld.com] for some ideas on how to deal with them.

david_uk

12:53 pm on Apr 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



When I tried section targetting, unfortunately the bot zoomed in one one keyword and a lot of the ads became irrelevant. I had certain words in the section of text that were unavoidable - I couldn't delete them, or substitute another word. The way round that was to put <span></span> around the word to break it up. E.G. te<span>st</span>. That changed the bot's behaviour and I saw properly targetted ads.

To be honest, I've found that not using section targetting helps me to get relevant ads. It might be that splitting keywords as above, or just putting section targetting on negative words only might be worth trying.

mistergin

4:40 pm on Apr 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Actually that's brilliant... I can replace the word(s) with bl<span>ah</span....

thanks!

SanDiego Art

10:47 pm on Apr 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I also read that it takes a couple of weeks for the bot to pick up the tags. I've recently added the tags to the footer of my site as Google was using the link text to my web developer to show ads for website development in my site's city. Hopefully the "ignore" tag will stop this soon.