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Here's the math of how this is done:
$8.34/hour for 24 hours
42 clicks averaging $0.20 ea. per hour.
Thats right, no high paying keywords even, just averaging out to $.20 each.
How many page impressions does it take Uncle Bill?
Well, if you have 15,000 page impressions (not ad impressions) getting about 8% CTR that's roughly 1,200 clicks a day which @ $0.20/click comes to $240 a day.
That's right, ONLY 15,000 pages impressions.
So many visitors does that take Uncle Bill?
Well, if each visitor only views an average of 3 pages then 5,000 visitors a day could do the trick.
Really?
ABSOLUTELY!
The trick is to pick a topic where people are actively looking for things and the ads become just as important as your content, so they're clicking here and there all over the place to find what they're looking for.
Now go work on your traffic, then get to bed, it's late, sheesh.
I created a stock trading guide with 100 pages of original content written by myself. After submitting it to directories, I still have no hits, and no rank.
At the moment i've gone back to my original 'obscure city travel guide' niche, and am creating a new site while my stock market guide hopefully gets picked up by the search engines.
hm, strange, i got website with 55,000 daily UNIQUE, 200 000+ page impressions and i never achieved even one third of your 6000 bucks a month. its filled with ads, but not adsense, because they don't like my content. this seems to be a decent problem, because with another Text ad service I achieve 1500+ clicks a day and earn about 10 bucks. With Adsense, it could be hundreds, I think...
Solobrian, the most important part of promoting your website is in link exchanging. You should spend a purality of your time emailing webmasters.
Please, I can do without more spam from budapest-hotel-booking-outfit.com or buds-real-estate-in-western-australia.com.au.
So link exchanging is the best way to increase SERP rankings?
[edited by: Woz at 3:30 am (utc) on Mar. 20, 2006]
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So link exchanging is the best way to increase SERP rankings?
No. That's soooooo late 1990s, and the search engines (or at least Google) caught onto that brute-force tactic long ago.
The best way to increase SERP rankings is to create content that will earn one-way inbound links.
If I could just get more people to install Alexa
One of my real estate clients has installed the Alexa toolbar on about 5 office computers.
Own homepage a start page, they also use their own web site when intresents call for consultation talks.
Alexa rank just between 47.000 and 48.000
Actual about 4000 visitors per month.
My own Alexa ranking is 80.000 and I have on
this site about 120.000 visitors a month
When you consider the demographics and who is likely to be using their toolbar, I doubt even the so called top 5000 sites are more than vaguely in real order.
I know someone who was hitting 350,000 simply by having the toolbar and adding content to a site, I'm pretty dawn sure just about no one else was looking at.
I did make the trip from $3 a day to $6000 a month, achieving that goal in January 2005. Pretty much exactly as Bill describes, with about $.20 a click average. But the trafiic was only because of a fortuous set of circumstances resulting in a great spike in hits for that month. It died out by the next month, but some of the temporary traffic remained and I leveled out at about $10 a day in March.
I chose to be encouraged by my brief glimpse of the promised land instead of discouraged that it was taken away from me, and kept on building up as I could. Slowly, the visitors and earnings have increased. Last month I ended up with $1700 in Adsense earnings, and it looks like I will break $2000 for March.
My goal is to see $6000 again for January 2007, and this time keep it at or above that level for good.
You post here and there answering questions in forums and blogs and people look to your URL to see who you are. Next thing you know you get 100 visitors from one forum, 100 from a blog, 100 from another, and just by being helpful in your niche here and there you've added 1,0000 new visitors a day before you know it in covert viral marketing. You don't even have to go overboard as visitors trickle thru, just a post now and then to keep your name in play, maybe once a week is enough.
THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX...
and you will do well for yourself.
Sometimes you just catch lightning in a bottle once in a while.
I decided to create "Blogger Networks" in the Outdoors, Travel and Photography niches, and create awards for the best in these avenues...just for fun, mind you.
What I hadn't anticipated was the rabid tenacity of some of the people/sites named.
I had classrooms of kids in far-off places following their favorites and voting from their school computers.
Folks contacting their local newspaper columnists to generate support for their sites.
In essence, I had people working for me to get my link out there, all the while to their benefit as well.
The traffic spike I got from all of this was enormous, and a good deal of it has been "sticky".
Come up with something in your niche that benefits others, and you will enjoy the fruits of your labor.
BUT- don't stop there.
Keep brainstorming and keep working.
Is it really possible to get like 10000+ uniques a day without buying traffic?
3000 x 4 > 1,000 x .10 ___ x 30
now i just need the other 3,000 visitors. (3-6 months)
I think if you are looking for an optimum path this is it.
I do contract work so I just scaled my workload by half and hoping to be mostly but not completely out by the fall.(I'll just keep raising my prices until only the choice few are left)
Is it really possible to get like 10000+ uniques a day without buying traffic?
You can get a lot more than that if you've got decent links to your site and good rankings in Google.
Is it really possible to get like 10000+ uniques a day without buying traffic?
I do not buy traffic and see 13,000 plus unique visitors daily from good search engine rankings.
I decided to create "Blogger Networks" in the Outdoors, Travel and Photography niches, and create awards for the best in these avenues...just for fun, mind you.
What I hadn't anticipated was the rabid tenacity of some of the people/sites named.
I had classrooms of kids in far-off places following their favorites and voting from their school computers.
Folks contacting their local newspaper columnists to generate support for their sites.
In essence, I had people working for me to get my link out there, all the while to their benefit as well.
Heartlander: What type of awards did you give out? Where these monetary awards or more for noticing special users of your site?
I've been thinking about something similar and am just trying to wrap my head around it.
Based on long term and extensive data we have access to this is my opinion:
With a somewhat better than average overall CTR, combined with a number of very diverse sites (about most all subjects, except adult) with highly variable keyword values (from very good high paying keywords, ranging down to poor low paying words), roughly 14,000 page impressions/day are needed to equal about $200/day, or $6,000/mo.
P.S. The stats also reveal about 14,000 unique visitors per day are required, which works out to be approximately the same as page impression numbers.
[edited by: trader at 4:55 pm (utc) on Mar. 20, 2006]
He doesn't know as much about internet marketing but he sure knows how to fish and smoke cigarettes.
My niche is news, not product info, etc, so keep that in mind.
I love how you can track your incremental progress towards your goals.
IncrediBill and myself are fairly near each other, with Bill's 15,000 day, and myself estimating 14,000/day.
When I calculated 14,000/day I did not really read Bill's post closely at the time to realize he was near my estimation.
I am reading these posts and wondering if I am off on the wrong foot or just impatient. Are these numbers possible? I have a site that is listed in 3-4 highest spot for my topic in searches at Google, MSN and yahoo. My site has consistently enjoyed 2.3-2.5 million hits a month and 20k unique visitors a month but so far, getting lots of ad impressions but my CTR is extremely low compared to the numbers here.
Should I start begging advise on how I am presenting AdSense on my site or just sit tight and wait for these numbers? ;) Lol, I am one of the $3/day folks mentioned!
Cheers
One thing you should keep in mind though when comparing your performance to that of say, IncrediBill, is that if you look at IncrediBill's primary site, the AdSense ads are almost content in and of themselves (plus he does a good job of presenting them and mixing them into the site). I would suspect that his visitors would find the ads interesting in their own right.
Don't be afraid to experiment and find out what works best for your site, and welcome to WW.
My ads are placed in decent places according the heat map, but not the best. My click through rate, though, ranges anywhere from .02 to maybe 2.0 on a VERY good day.
My site is about 1.5 years old and has fairly decent search results for my main keywords.
I just can't seem to get them to click.
I have a local site that gets anywhere from 130 to 200 unique visitors a day and the average pageviews per visitor varies between 15 & 20.My ads are placed in decent places according the heat map, but not the best. My click through rate, though, ranges anywhere from .02 to maybe 2.0 on a VERY good day.
My site is about 1.5 years old and has fairly decent search results for my main keywords.
I just can't seem to get them to click.
Midwest,
I scanned your Omaha and Phoenix site briefly and I would definately suggest re-positions your adsense units. First you should have a good idea which are producing any clicks with channels. Next I would place something insdie the actual classified ad where the readers eye's are pulled to because of your layout. The header placement on the home page and throughout isn't going to get much attention and putting adsense along the sidebar isn't withing the heatmap. Just some ideas to play around with it obviously can't hurt much to try.
Hopefully, I can tweak this site to come up to its potential ;)
Cheers
I once experimenting with a very high priced AdSense keyword and discovered that the targetted Ads did not display after I exceeds a specific keyword density. After I tuned my keywords density and optimised the filename, my targetted Ads start to come in. This does not apply to all keywords. Only specific category of keywords. Hope this could help.
I have something want to share here. and at the same time want to ask for advise too.
I have 10k impression in one of my page today. and you know what? the CTR is only 5%. and my eCPM is even lower. only $1.5. so i only earn $8 out of 10k impression :(
my friend with the same topic and same content earn $50/day from it. the layout not much different too :(
any help here is grately appreciated.
you've got so many adblocks up there. All the ads look like MFAs. My advice, cut down the number of ads and start filtering MFAs.
CTR is only 5%. and my eCPM is even lower. only $1.5.
A CTR of 5% is not at all a low CTR. But an eCPM of $1.5 on a good CTR is very low and shows that you are not getting very much per click. This is probably due to the type of ads your page attracts. One thing you could try is to influence what shows on this page (by altering content?) in order to show better paying ads.
