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What is your backup plan?

If your sites tank, what will you do?

         

proboscis

2:10 am on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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My oldest site is 7 years old and has a steady income from adsense and other aff programs...seems secure...but I have lost a "secure" business before.

I was wondering if you all would share your backup plans -- if you have them. Do you invest, just make more sites, have other non-internet based businesses?

drall

2:36 am on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have invested into rental realestate, not a huge earner but has certain tax bonuses and is probably as close to a sure thing as you can find for secure income over the longterm.

annej

2:54 am on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Based on temporarily losing Googe rankings for a small site of mine during Bourbon it appears that my income would be cut in half if I lost rankings on all sites. So I always have that in the back of my mind in terms of any financial planning.

I would probably try adwords though. Just to see if I could get some of the traffic back.

walkman

2:55 am on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)



I'm investing into something no one can take away from me: school :).
Until I finish school I hope to do well enough so I dont; have any debt once I'm done. Of course, I also hope to put a nice chunk into my SOLO 401k.

truezeta

2:57 am on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Good plan Walkman. I wish I was thinking like you before I went to school! :~)

Swebbie

4:40 am on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Accumulate a lot of stuff while you're making the dough. Then when Google takes away the love, you can sell it on Ebay to live on. Kidding... or am I?

StuntasticAudi

4:41 am on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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There is a lot of tall bridges here in florida..i'll probably just jump off one!

greatstart

4:44 am on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>>> If your sites tank, what will you do?

I will most likely go back to a nine to five job.

jetteroheller

6:25 am on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The captain sinks with his ship.

truezeta

7:12 am on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hmm, a lot of suicidal ideations going on in this thread. Do I need to start some psychotherapy?

9-5 sounds like the best backup plan.

frox

7:22 am on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Unluckily, my site is 95% fed by SEs, and 85% fed by Google.

So, no Google, no traffic, no money :-)

Playing it hyper-clean: very straight SEO, only "organic links", PR5 in abt 2 years... I keep repeating myself there is no reason for me to drop in google :-)

Swebbie

7:34 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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frox, buddy (or buddette), you're set up for a major freefall. Don't ever rely that heavily on organic SE traffic, especially from just ONE engine. Yikes!

Get some paid traffic going and negotiate links on high traffic sites in your industry. Build a mailing list too, so you can keep in touch with existing customers for that approaching rainy day.

LifeinAsia

7:53 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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We have a number of different revenue streams from our sites, so if one "tanks" we have the others to fall back on. We're constantly working on new streams all the time, just so we have additional fallbacks.

Income from AdSense only represents about 1-2% of our income. If we got dumped for some reason, we'd certainly survive. Or probably join some other "inferior" program to recoup some of the revenue.

If we somehow got dropped from the Google index, that would certainly hurt, as we get a large part of our traffic from Google searches. But we also get traffic (and conversions) from AdWords and other PPC campaigns. We have some affiliates who send minor traffic and conversions- we can always expand that. We have thousands of inbound links from other sites and good inclusion on Yahoo and other directories, not to mention good placement on other search engines.

We've seen seasonal fluctuations (or due to other world events we can't control) in some of our other streams- such is the nature of the travel business. But we plan for the cycles, make sure we maintain adequate cash reserves, line up additional finacing options before we need them, and keep exploring additional revenue streams.

In fact, that's why we decided to try AdSense in the first place- as an additional revenue stream.

jetteroheller

8:01 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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9-5 sounds like the best backup plan.

I am 47.

In Austria and Germany are extrem laws forbiding to employee persons over 50.

The politicans call it dmission protection for people over 50. The law makes it extrem difficult to dismiss people over 50.

But the truth is, the law is like lead for somebody who tries to swim. No reasonable company employees somebody over 50, because it's so difficult to fire them.

gendude

8:26 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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- Invest what you make now, while tucking away a good chunk in the bank.
- Don't have outstanding debt.

- As others have said, diverse revenue streams

- Also, as others have said, diverse websites (at least two or three) that have completly different revenue streams and rely on completly different topics, that wouldn't kill your business simply because Google penalized one of your sites.

- Again, as others have said, Run your sites "clean" - i.e. comply with Google guidelines.

proboscis

10:38 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Good advice gendude, and everyone. Anyone got any advice on what to invest in? I have only a few hundred "extra" each month to invest right now.

LifeinAsia

11:07 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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AdWords! :)

Seriously, though, reinvest money back into your business to make it grow.

When we first started, we put no money into marketing/advertising. As a result, we grew very slowly. Once we got to the point where we had a little extra money, we used it for marketing/advertising. Our growth rate increased. So we increased our marketing budget a little more- growth increased even more. (Do you see a pattern here?)

Since we started AdSense, we have taken some of the AdSense revenue and increased our AdWords budget that amount.

But don't just blindly throw money into advertising/marketing- constantly test and tweak and re-examine your ROI to find what works best. Then continue to test and tweak for improvements.