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Overall are you happy with AdSense?

TOS says nothing about saying if you're happy or not

         

RobbieD

4:06 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I know that others including myself have asked the question "How much do you make with AdSense" but I think a better way of asking it without going against Google's TOS and helping people make the choice if it's for them or not would be:

Overall are you happy with AdSense?

I understand that this question is very open and can have many variables but to simplify things...

Monus

10:00 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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4/10

Bad things
1) The TOS make the rights from the publishers very thin. -3
2) Publishers get kicked without reason. -1
4) Sites getting attacked by concurrent, so that you get kicked out. -1

Good things
1) Money is not bad (nice as extra). +3
2) Ads are target. +1

If google was my only income, then I have a heart attack withing a year.

loanuniverse

10:05 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hehehehe Monus how does that math work?

You giving it -5 points and adding +4 working from a base of 10 that is a 9, and working from a base of 0 it is a -1 :O

seaboy

10:13 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Trillianjedi - y'know I was the first to give a minus point for the 'worry factor' and I debated doing that because I *knew* someone would think "ah ha - so why are you worried!"!
Basically I've read the posts that we all have with someone claiming they didn't click anything and were booted anyway.
I know my site is up-to-scratch, I'm not spamming or trying any tricks, I'm not double serving, and I've never clicked ads on my site...but still, there's that stomach lurching feeling everytime an email arrives from Google (eg the notice about change in TOS)...did someone else (eg a competitor) try and get me banned? How can I prove it wasn't me? etc, etc?
Maybe I should just relax a little more, but that's just me ;-)

danny

10:30 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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8/10 - I'm generally very happy with the program, but there's always room for improvement (more formats if nothing else) and, as so many others have mentioned, there's the fear that it will all go away for reasons beyond my control.

Monus

10:33 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hehehehe Monus how does that math work?

LOL... that don't work any more after 2 weeks programing.
Well than I give the money a 4 (thats not bad after all)
And the ads 1

5/10

TravelMan

11:00 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Love adsense 10/10

-2 for fraudlent click black cloud
-5 for poor google florida algo

Seriously, I think adsense rocks. Great idea, fair recompense, win win all round in my book.

<Just sort out those crappy competitive serps ;)>

yobo

11:06 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am real happy with the numbers so far that Adsense is generating but I haven't seen a check yet. Is October the only month they have been late with or is this the norm?

simonuk

11:17 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm a 9/10 also with the 1 being fear of being kicked off through no fault of my own.

Simon.

RobbieD

11:19 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am real happy with the numbers so far that Adsense is generating but I haven't seen a check yet. Is October the only month they have been late with or is this the norm?

This is the first month that the checks have been late.

Ok well from all the feedback so far I would say that AdSenseAdvisor will be getting the #1 question!

Can something be put in place so publishers don't have to worry so much? ( White Hat AdSense Publishers ;) )

Visi

11:32 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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well....scoring overall 8/10

TOS not restrictive enough....too many non intended sites displaying adds. Perhaps should restate this as enforcemnet of TOS. Was glad to hear that Google starting to manually look at sites. Keep hearing how restrictive terms are...keep saying read some of the others out there. At least google does not have a "fine" for cancellation due to "fraud".

Ads displayed....technically get ads on the site....still seems to be an issue with targetting that became worse after Oct 12 broad matching changes. Issue has not been resolved and the erosion of earnings/click although better at this time has not recovered completely.

Response has been "great" from the emails. Unlike others we do not seem to be having problems with "form responses" and although response is not immediate is well within expected business reply times.

Payments have been punctual, again to standard business terms. That Google found themselves in a Holiday crunch, combined with filing of all the tax info this month and wre a few dyas late really doesn't bother us much. Now extend that to 60 days, or having the trend continue would be of concern.

Overall...we see it as being easy to install...or uninstall, fairly open TOS, a responsive partner when problems arise and tend to pay the bills ontime. Wish all my business partners were like this. Would like to see 100 % ads served at high epc's....but apparently Santa Claus has not recieved our letter yet:)

Cooter

12:14 am on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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At least google does not have a "fine" for cancellation due to "fraud".

They do. It's called, "we found you in violation of the TOS, and we're not sending you a check."

Visi

12:18 am on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Cooter...although I keep hearing this...and after asking for someone to confirm it...no one has. We have had many posts over the past months along the line of "I've been kicked out" but not one has resturned to complete the post, telling us what the final resolution was on the dollar outstanding issue. Might be getting bad memory in my old age...but anyone else remember the final word from the "banned ones"?

Kinitz

12:37 am on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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but not one has resturned to complete the post, telling us what the final resolution was on the dollar outstanding issue. Might be getting bad memory in my old age...but anyone else remember the final word from the "banned ones"?

oh please!

and what do you expect? people coming back and saying that they now at mc-donals to meet ends, because google kicked them out

without any fault on their side

?

Blue_Fin

12:45 am on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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after asking for someone to confirm it...no one has. We have had many posts over the past months along the line of "I've been kicked out" but not one has resturned to complete the post, telling us what the final resolution was on the dollar outstanding issue.

Sure did, just earlier today, actually. No one has commented on the final resolution of their outstanding earnings because Google has refused to respond.

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Jenstar

12:48 am on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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and what do you expect? people coming back and saying that they now at mc-donals to meet ends, because google kicked them out

without any fault on their side

There have been people here who have been suspended, who have admitted to violating the terms (ie. by clicking their own ads, by putting it on pages/sites that are clearly against the policies, by putting AdSense on sites they are not legally authorized to do so). Not everyone is an innocent publisher who has been suspended over no fault of his/her own - a lot of it is just speculation of what *could* happen.

As with any program that will bring you in money, you should never depend on any money until you have the check in hand - and with some programs, not until the check clears. It isn't quite right to blame Google because someone has to work at McDonalds. It has been repeated here many times, never depend on one source of income, whether it be AdSense, your dependency on appearing in the top ten in the natural Google serps, or from a single affiliate program or site.

Might be getting bad memory in my old age...but anyone else remember the final word from the "banned ones"?

Visi, I believe you are correct, I can't recall anyone who has been suspended who has followed up to say whether they received their final payment or not, because it wouldn't be due until a month or so after the suspension was given. Someone did report back saying they had received one payment after receiving a suspension, but he/she received the suspension right at the same time checks for the previous month were being cut, so it is possible his/her check was already done when the suspension was given.

Jesse_Smith

1:52 am on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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How much you earn: 10/10. I see the internet Gold Rush of 2000 on the way hear again!
How good they are on paying on time: 8/10. Two months on time, and then this.
How much we can disclose: 0/10. It really stinks that we can't tell people how much we earn, how many impressions we get, or what our CTR is with out having to worry about breaking the rules.

Die_Hard

2:40 am on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The one thing I find interesting about the threads concerning adsense is the absence of Google Boy. How come he aint rushing in here to add his two cents?

creepychris

3:08 am on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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9.9/10 ...'clickfraudophobia' prevents us from counting on it as a reliable source of funds even though it seems to be. Business requires some planning.

tombola

7:44 am on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Adsense: 9.5/10
(nothing is perfect)

Affiliate programs: 0/10
(waste of time)

Other PPC programs:?

ncw164x

8:25 am on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>the absence of Google Boy

Because you have to be over 18 to post so that's why his dad "googleguy" does all of his posting instead

ncw164x

Mauricio

9:27 am on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)



9/10 by clickfraudophobia
0/10 affiliate programs (too much work for 2.41$ a month)
0/10 other PPC networks (my site was rejected: not enough visitors)

esllou

10:48 am on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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-1 clickophobia
-1 falling cpc steadily from july to now in my sector
+1 for Google NOT allowing by-domain or, gulp, by-page stats (yet!)...will be the death knell of this program when they do...spammers' delight.

so... 9/10

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