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(I don't use it, myself, and have no plans to in the future.)
MFA is "Made For Adsense".
Many people at WW think very less about MFA builders. If a person says "I am a MFA" - they run after him with chains and baseball bats and beat him up on every thread he posts on WW. :)
I will be really amazed if anyone posts this part of information.
Anyways, I am more into other stuff than this thing. I do make websites for profit but with a real good research and content and only around the topics I think I can really work on (rather than just making sites working like a machine). Some people in other threads tried to beat me up the same way ;-) but I somehow managed to dial 911. he he
I'm curious about the proportion of WW members who run sites that are created primarily for this purpose.
The older members never created their sites for Adsense since they existed before the programme however many have adopted it as a means of very successfully monetising their relevant, and usually authority, sites.
I guess that many of us did it initially to pay the hosting bills etc not appreciating just how successful it would become.
Just as to how many there are at WebmasterWorld in total you'd better ask Brett to take an educated guess. I have no idea.
Granted, although few would admit to their sites being created solely for Adsense, it sure seems as though it's more than a few of the newer members. To be honest - well, I guess it's best if I'm not ;-)
One thing I will say is that as a user, I find the serps being increasingly polluted by sites with no rationale other than a quick grab and dash to make money on Adsense. The responsibility for this is purely Googles, of course.
It wasn't my original intention to be posting in this particular forum, so I'll make this my last post in the thread.
[edited by: Stefan at 4:27 pm (utc) on Feb. 6, 2006]
I guess that many of us did it initially to pay the hosting bills etc not appreciating just how successful it would become.
Exactly! and AdWords bills for our B&M businesses.
Works for me:-)
How many launch more than 5 new sites per week?
How many own 50 or more sites?
How many own many one page same layout sites?
How many depend on Adwords traffic for AdSense earnings?
Would sure love to see those lovely people come out and be recognized for their efforts in making the web a better place.
While Most of those websites are not true MFA websites. I can say I have a couple pages(black sheep) that are not the quality of the rest of my sites. But because of them being so High paying I will not get rid of them.
So anyone who says they have not changed By creating new topics, advertising a high paying page more, ad placement(come on that brings down the quality of the site) and many various ways of getting more income is tricking themselves into thinking they were once the TOP QUALITY webmaster they once were--hey I'm right there with ya - But I can look at myself in the mirror in the morning cause I got money in my pocket.
[edited by: toomuch72 at 4:50 pm (utc) on Feb. 6, 2006]
How many launch more than 5 new sites per week? - Not me
How many own 50 or more sites? - I have 100+ created over 15 years in total
How many own many one page same layout sites? - None, two sites of 1,000 page plus, the rest at between 20-100 pages
How many depend on Adwords traffic for AdSense earnings? - Not me
Route to success? Know your subject thoroughly before launching, whether it be a single or 1,000+ page site.
Looks like you are next only to Tim Berners-Lee..
Hmmm...a little-known bragging right here, how shall I put this, he used to be a personal friend until his success kept him away, nice guy, and I had already been into computers for many years and discussed such a global system as he created:-)
Over 50 sites? No. I think I own 30 domain names, but most of them are because I had an idea for a site, got the domain name, and am holding onto it until I get time to actually do the site. Active sites -- I've been doing sites since the mid-90's, and I think I have ... hmm ... really maybe 5 that are actually active at this time.
The only "one page same layout" sites I have are those few that say "Coming soon" or "Under construction." None of those have Adsense, by the way. :-)
And ... Adwords traffic for Adsense earnings? Um ... no. I can't even begin to comprehend how that would work for my sites. The keywords to buy the Adwords traffic are at least 10% more than the clicks would be. I do depend quite a bit on accidental search engine traffic -- I've somehow managed to be on Google page 1 for the last few years on some interesting search phrases. Not sure how, 'cause I don't do much SEO. I guess having actual content reflecting what people are searching for does work. :-)
JK
Have I tweaked pages/sites to allow for Adsense? Sure, but those sites had dozens of pages, full of usual content before Adsense was on the map.
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How many launch more than 5 new sites per week? Not me. Haven't found the time.
How many own 50 or more sites? Not me. Haven't found that time thing yet.
How many own many one page same layout sites? Nah. Wouldn't waste any time on this.
How many depend on Adwords traffic for AdSense earnings? Don't depend on it, but would love to increase it! :)
However, being a low traffic site it occured to me that all I had to do was update the state-specific inforamtion to a more populous state to get higher traffic. I simply cloned the page and modified the contnet to be relevant to new state and have been very happy with the results. Both are MFA, single page clones with content adapted for the state in question.
I can see from analytics that the sites have about 25% repeat visitors from which I infer that the info is useful.
If the visitors like them and the SEs like them then...
The point being that the forum often gives the impression that MFA is evil but I believe that is because the expression is used without a context.
My web site has been running for about ten years, I don't remember precisely when it started but certainly before Adsense.
No I don't use Adsense.
Matt
I started the thread in the Community Centre forum and it wound up here. It's perhaps not the best place for it, but so it goes.
WebmasterWorld Community Center [webmasterworld.com]
Topics and issues related to the operation of WebmasterWorld.
Community Center sure isn't the right place for it, because what kind of sites members have has nothing whatsoever to do with the operation of WebmasterWorld:
Not sure I agree with you there, Marcia. The topic might not address the mechanics of WW, but there's more to things than nuts and bolts.
Amy mods or admins who would like to yank the entire thread will get no complaint from me.
When I think "MFA" I think of the tons of cookie-cutter sites you can pick up on eBay with hundreds of pages like "blue widgets, buy blue widgets, buy blue widgets now,buy discount blue widgets, red widgets, buy red widgets, buy discount red widgets," etc on and on, and where each page is identical but for the replacement of "blue widgets" with "buy blue widgets" or "discount blue widgets."
The ones where every page is, "Looking for [keyword]? We have [keyword] for you. [keyword] is one of the most important things in life. [keyword], [keyword], and more [keyword] will get you chicks. Want [keyword] now? Try here for [keyword]."
Basically, to me, MFA sites aren't useful in themselves, but rather are just a list of keywords.
There are many sites which were literally "Made for Adsense," but with are, nevertheless, valid resources in their own right, and which I don't really call "MFA" sites even though they technically are.
That's just me, tho'.
JK
After playing with a lot of my (non-english) minors sites, I now keep Adsenso on a single website, and I have found earnings are way better without the other less interesting sites.
That site is a >10.000 pages reference site I have put up with contents I prepared for a now defunct project.
(I guess I am and old-schooler too, my first CGI-driven site was written in C in 1993)
How many launch more than 5 new sites per week? not me
How many own 50 or more sites? not me
How many own many one page same layout sites? not me
How many depend on Adwords traffic for AdSense earnings? not me
IMHO, the crank-'em-out approach is obviously a "make hay while the sun shines" strategy. Or maybe it should be called "collect eggs until you've killed the golden goose." Will you be able to earn money from those sites a year from now? Maybe. Five years from now? Doubtful. Ten years from now? Not a hope. Mind you, it may be a valid approach for those who like to chase fads ("If it's Tuesday, it must be affiliate marketing" or "If it's Wednesday, it must be AdSense"). I personally prefer to build something with intrinsic, lasting value that can generate revenues with any business model, whether it be affiliate links, AdSense, CPM advertising, payment for content, or a combination of the above. To use yet another metaphor, this means you'll always be moving forward instead of running in place.
