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Clicking My Ads by Accident Weighs Heavily on My Mind

Wish there Were a Way to Automatically Not Count them

         

Oney52

5:58 am on Jan 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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When maintaining a site an ad might get clicked by accident (so far no ads has been clicked because I’m extra careful).

But is there a way to prevent this weight on the mind so I can relax a bit when maintaining site?

Perhaps, google to provide an option to automatically cancel all clicks from publishers IP or region perhaps?

So if an accidental click occurs publishers don’t get penalized, since it won't count or cost the advertiser anything?

Has anyone proposed this to google?

I’d appreciate your reply. I want to relax a little when maintaining site.

tclcorp

6:48 am on Jan 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Good Point Oney! It happenned to me tonight while working on my site. My 3 yr. old bumped me while running past with his truck and I hit my own ad in adwords while I was "tweaking" it in a ad-group. I checked, and it cost me $1.25. Yeah, small potatoes, but still it costs more in worry and possible penalty from Google. It's happenned before too, in adsense as well on own site, not often, but it does happen. So, your idea would be AWESOME if somehow it could be integrated for us publishers and advertisers to to submit an "oops" type of thing to Google so they knew it was just that, an "oops"! Just my **0.02 worth ;)

martinibuster

7:15 am on Jan 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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A click now and then happens. They know it. Nothing happens.

jchampliaud

7:20 am on Jan 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I think one of the ways to discount an accident click is to log on to your AdSense account right after making the click. I think that your ip address is noted and is checked against clicks made in your account and then the click is discounted.

jimh009

9:13 am on Jan 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I've done two accidental clicks - always when working on my site and usually late at night.

Because I'm paranoid, I shoot off an email to Adsense telling them that I clicked on this link at this time from this page.

Always gotten a nice, comforting email back saying that the account is in good standing and essentially thanks for letting us know about it.

Aircut

9:47 am on Jan 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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happened to my only once, i emailed google immediately after, noting the advertiser name and asked to refund his account.

Mistra

10:44 am on Jan 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Happened to me once when I was new. I immediately informed Google to delete the 5 cent click earned and asked them for forgiveness.

They told me to use the ads preview if I wanted to see the ads. That wasn't my intention, because I clicked it by mistake when trying to click the site in my favorite lists. Now, I am extra careful when visiting my own sites and make one of my sites without Adsense as homepage. If you have only one web site then better don't make it your homepage.

When I accidentally clicked my ads last time I quickly close it, so if that happened again (hopefully not), I would not be able to know which site I accidentally clicked (hopefully will never ever happened again). Next time, if you accidentally clicked the ads better jot down the information about the ads that you just clicked to inform Google (just in case if they do not have the capability to know which ads).

Now, I permanently put pagead2.googlesyndication.com in the list of my banned sites in my IE browser. It is not that effective as it is only working for those link units type of ads.

Aircut

11:22 am on Jan 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Now, I permanently put pagead2.googlesyndication.com in the list of my banned sites in my IE browser

ha. now you are not a paying visitor to any other webmaster as well....

Hobbs

11:31 am on Jan 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Good ideas here.

ASA if you are reading this (are you back from vacation yet?) take this down please:

Add a blocked IP filter list like the one for competitive ad filter where:
- One can add an IP e.g. 192.168.0.1
- One can add an IP range e.g. 192.168.0.*
- Automatically add the publisher's IP to the top of the list, and refresh it with every login.
- Up to you to not show ads or just discount clicks from this list (I prefer discount so I can see ads)

This will free up your resources with less ooops emails, and ease some of the pressure on your click fraud machine, give us a little peace of mind and control in case we observe unusual suspicious traffic.. Basically we are asking to be your partners in fighting click fraud, how can you refuse?

FrostyMug

4:44 pm on Jan 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I was doing major redesign this weekend too, and too clicked twice on my own ads. I use PHP and can probably write a script to not display ads if i'm working on my own IP.

usually, when that does happen, maybe once in 3 months (i'm VERY careful), the stats show let's say 3 clicks, but the payout is only for one click (0.3c).

StuntasticAudi

4:51 pm on Jan 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I wish google could just block your own ip from earning any kind of money. Then we wouldn't have to worry about clicking on our own ads or people doing fraud. I think there should also be a limit for visitors that they only can click on your adsense like 5 times in a month or something. That way we won't have to worry about the people that sit there and click on them on purpose so you get introuble with Google.

idolw

5:13 pm on Jan 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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google are lazy. they prefer to tell their money-making hens (publishers) to be careful than build a good system.

if i had adsense on my website i would want to click on my ads to see the websites that advertise. it is unfair that i have restricted rights on my own website!

bad, lazy google :P

Hobbs

5:15 pm on Jan 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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idolw, you are kidding right?

JoeS

5:43 pm on Jan 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Not certain about this, but I think Google does not count any clicks from the IP address where you login to adsense.

netmeg

6:58 pm on Jan 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Google hasn't counted any accidental clicks to my account from EITHER home or work, both of which are on Comcast IPs, so they must know somehow - or rather, they count the click, but there's no $$ for it.

I suggested that they allow us to block IPs or IP ranges months ago - even emailed it to them, and got a letter back saying they couldn't do that because some valid clicks might get blocked.

Well, yea, one would hope we'd be smart enough not to block a range of AOL IP numbers, but geezopete, since it's US who would be likely to suffer the harmful consequences the most, and if we're willing to risk it, I don't see why they can't at least try it out.

Key_Master

12:16 am on Jan 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Here's a client side solution to preventing accidental clicks. The cool thing about this solution is that it will still allow you to see the ads- the adblock will just disappear if you mouse over it. The onmouseover code should have no effect on your visitors ability to click on ads. Tested in IE 6, Opera 8.5, and FireFox 1.5

Note: I thought it would be best to do this with onmouseover instead of onclick. This way there is a visual hint and you can see that the code is working. If the adblock doesn't disappear- don't click!

Upload this page to your server. This page allows you to set a 1 year cookie on your computer that can be used to enable or disable the onmouseover code and to test if it works. If the cookie is set to off, you should be able to mouse over the adblock and watch it disappear.

<html>
<head>
<title>Prevent Accidental Clicks</title>
<meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow">
<script type="text/javascript">
<!--
function setCookie(name,value,days) {
if (days) {
var date = new Date();
date.setTime(date.getTime()+(days*24*60*60*1000));
var expires = "; expires="+date.toGMTString();
}
else var expires = "";
document.cookie = name+"="+value+expires+"; path=/";
}
// -->
</script>
</head>
<body>
<p style="margin:20px;text-align:center;"><a href="javascript:void();" onclick=
"javascript:setCookie('showAdSenseAds','off','365');return false;">Disable AdSense</a> :: <a href=
"javascript:void();" onclick="javascript:setCookie('showAdSenseAds','on','365');location.reload();">Enable AdSense</a></p>
<div align="center" id="adsense" onmouseover="if(document.cookie.match(/showAdSenseAds=off/)){document.getElementById('adsense').innerHTML='';}">
<!-- Google AdSense Code goes here -->
</div>
</body>
</html>

Place the following code where your ads normally are placed. You can replace the div with another element if you wish. The important thing to remember is that the element must contain the "adsense" id, the onmouseover code, and a closing tag. If you have another element using the same "adsense" id make sure you assign this another unique id. If you mouse over the element it will empty it completely, so make sure your ads are contained within their own element.

<div id="adsense" onmouseover="if(document.cookie.match(/showAdSenseAds=off/)){document.getElementById('adsense').innerHTML='';}">
<!-- Google AdSense Code goes here -->
</div>

peewhy

1:09 am on Jan 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I think it is fair to say that it is only a matter of time for someone to click on one of their units.

Google might have an unofficial percentage based on our history and pedigree.

If we're new to Adsense and have an unhealthy habit of false clicks we might get treated differently to a seasoned veteran Adsenser with a clean record.

david_uk

7:13 am on Jan 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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To be honest, the scripting ideas are good, but a lot of people who sign up for adsense do not have a clue about scripting, and don't stand a chance of implementing it.

Google should provide a simple facility to not count clicks from this computer - by a check box. Set it as checked by default.

Not only would that protect webmasters from accidental clicks, it would also mean that investigating ads on our own site would be a LOT easier than using the preview tool, as that frequently doesn't show ads you can see on your page in front of your very own eyes!

Aircut

7:19 am on Jan 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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i can see why google will choose not to offer an ip filter. it will in fact legitimize clicking on your ads, then the less honest publishers could hide under...ops i forgot to add my site to the filter....

i do think that a server based protection would help, but hey, who knows, maybe google technologies are so advance that they dont need our help...

peewhy

7:21 am on Jan 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I wonder what the revenue alone is from self clicks ... if clients were charged but adsense members were not paid.

marcel

7:34 am on Jan 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If Google implemented this, there would probably be thousands of amateur webmasters blocking their internal IP address ranges (eg. 192.168.x.x) instead of the external one. I know of many people that do not know the difference.

It would just be another headache for Google to explain IP addressing to half of the users.

I'm still stuck on dial up, and I also sometimes use the OnSpeed service (proxy), I could not be bothered entering different IP ranges constantly. I have clicked on my own ads a few times, in the beginning I emailed Google, I don't bother with that anymore.

They're not as stupid as some would like them to be.

david_uk

7:51 am on Jan 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It does throw up an interesting legal question.

At the moment, I think there are several advertisers suing Google for failing to protect them against click fraud.

Now, if I was the judge, and discovered that they didn't automatically block clicks to their account from a computer where the account holder in, then I'd be inclined to believe that summarised Google's whole attitude to protecting advertisers against click fraud and find against Google.

I can understand that Google want you to click on other advertisers ads, but how simple would it be to block clicks only to advertisers on your site on any computer you used to log into your account?

Take the instance of a large publisher, having many employees churning out pages. If they were to get blocked, and use that against Google, would they be on a sticky wicket? I know in reality that probably isn't going to happen, but it would be an interesting scenario.

jomaxx

8:16 am on Jan 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Why does everybody think that "IP blocking" would be simple or effective or even possible at all?

Most publishers probably do not have fixed IPs, thus they can come in through multiple IPs and other people can access the web through those same IP addresses. Plus many publishers access the Web from multiple locations. Plus IP addresses can change over time for all kinds of reasons.

Just don't click on the stupid ads and you'll be fine. IMO any solution Google could possibly implement would legitimize self-clicking (as Aircut pointed out) and would inevitably create many more cases of accidental clicks than simply telling webmasters not to click on the stupid ads.

Hobbs

9:24 am on Jan 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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would inevitably create many more cases of accidental clicks than simply telling webmasters not to click on the stupid ads

jomaxx, there is no reason to change policy or TOS with adding the ip filter, Google can still instruct publishers not to click on their own ads with the filter in place as a second level of protection, we get here daily oops I clicked threads, and Google must be getting 1000 times that many daily, I am sure Google won't lower its guard either with the filter in place, all will remain the same but with a little more control in the publisher's hands, with earnings comes responsibility, and Google's telling us not to worry all is under control and not sharing part of that responsibility with us needs to ease up a little, and I am not just talking about ip filters, I am talking about a mindset change, which should lead to a menu choice for opting out of cpm ads, opting out of ads to pages that have AdSense on them .. and I am sure you can add a few points to the list too. I know part of Google's success is due to simplicity and ease in everything, but having advanced options is a smart move, like they did with Google Sitemaps.

bts111

9:31 am on Jan 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If Google thought that it was necessary they would implement something.

Stop worrying and keep on making sites ;)

Hobbs

9:54 am on Jan 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Stop worrying and keep on making sites

:) totally agree, if only I could stop coming back to WW. Probably has to do with that post on Google becoming a religion ..