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Adsense publishers hanging by the thread?

Is this true or not?

         

vbignacio

2:27 pm on Dec 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I notice that many have their Adsense account banned. I want to ask the old time Adsensers, since some of you might have your account when Adsense was first launched, if its true that publishers can easily get their account banned anytime even for no apparent reason? Is it an automated process? Does Adsense also make a mistake in banning an account and publishers can also ask for a review? Does Adsense discriminate publishers from certain countries? Or there really is FRAUD and VIOLATION committed and they just deny it. Can we sleep soundly at night knowing that for as long as we dont violate the TOS, we will not get kicked out of the program. And even if we do, Google will be FAIR and review their decision and reinstate us?

Frequent

3:20 pm on Dec 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Diversification is the only perscription that will allow you to sleep soundly with any revenue stream, adsense or not.

All you can do is follow the rules. But bad things do happen to good publishers (occasionally). Be good and be prepared to prove you have been good.

Freq---

europeforvisitors

3:30 pm on Dec 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



We see a lot of "I've been banned and I'm innocent" posts on this forum. In nearly every case, it turns out that the publishers have clearly violated the AdSense TOS. Some banned publishers have even claimed innocence after openly bragging about their sins under the same member aliases in other threads.

It's possible that some legitimate publishers have had their accounts disabled, especially if their sites have had ongoing problems with invalid clicks or haven't performed well for advertisers. But there's no reason to think that most AdSense publishers are "hanging a thread."

hunderdown

3:44 pm on Dec 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



I notice that many have their Adsense account banned.

To start with, what do you mean by "many"? I don't think I've seen more than 5 in any given month, which seems to me to be very few, especially considering the number of obvious TOS violations one can find when surfing AdSense websites.

I've been in AdSense for about two years, and on this forum for most of that. In that time, I'd say I've seen maybe 100 (probably fewer) people start an "I got banned" thread. Of those 100, at least half were newcomers to AdSense who soon admitted to having clicked their own ads or having committed some other very basic infraction. A large portion of the remaining 50 were eventually found to have done something less obvious but still a violation. Maybe 10 or 20 we never found out--they disappeared and I would assume that's because they realized that they'd been caught and weren't going to get anywhere. That leaves maybe 4 or 5 experienced webmasters who had been, as it turns out, mistakenly banned. And they did appeal, and they got reinstated. Someone started a thread recently that linked to the cases where there was a reinstatement--you might be able to find that, browsing back through this forum.

So what I've seen is that Google does make mistakes, but very seldom, considering the number of publishers in the program. Overall, it seems that you have to really do something pretty bad to get banned. A few self-clicks won't do it. AdSense even warns people about problems on a site--I've seen messages about that too.

If you are running a clean site, not buying dodgy traffic, have read the TOS and made sure to comply with it, you do NOT need to worry about being banned. It can happen, but so can being run down when you cross the street.

david_uk

10:05 pm on Dec 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I don't think you can regard the small number of threads we see on "I've been banned" as being "Many". Besides, as has been pointed out already in this thread that whilst some cases are undoubtedly genuine, there is more to most than meets the eye. In addition, Google have re-instated publishers where they are satisfied that an error has been made.

I've been with Adsense two years this coming January 2, and I haven't for one minute ever felt I was about to be booted. If I've ever had a query, it has been answered either here or by emailing Google. They have even thanked me for letting them know on the three occasions I've told them about accidental clicks.

Obey the rules and you will be fine, and would also be in position to argue your case in the very unlikely event of an error occuring.

toldan

11:07 pm on Dec 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



yes, it's true,

All Adsense publishers hang by the thread. Google can ban them anytime it wants.

You might think of us as independent contractors. There is no employment relationship between us. It's nothing personal, it's just business.

If Google's alghoritms decide that publisher should be banned, he/she will be banned for apparent or no apparent reason.

There were cases where people were banned second day after being accepted into Adsense program. You never know.

europeforvisitors

1:29 am on Dec 17, 2005 (gmt 0)



All Adsense publishers hang by the thread. Google can ban them anytime it wants.

To be fair, publishers can ban Google whenever they want, too. :-)

david_uk

1:44 am on Dec 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If Google's alghoritms decide that publisher should be banned, he/she will be banned for apparent or no apparent reason.

I don't believe so. In my experience Google do try to work with publishers in the first instance.

EG - a few months ago I did a search on the string "Click on the google ads" and reported about 20 of the websites I found that were positively encouraging click fraud to Google. Of that 20, a couple of weeks later all but one had modified their text to comply with the TOS and are still serving ads. One site didn't comply, got banned and then started whining about being banned. At the same time he posted the email from Google on his website! The email made it clear that he had the option of removing the text that was against the TOS and remaining in the program.

So I personally doubt that Google would ban someone without trying to resolve any issues first, unless the circumstances were very extreme.

europeforvisitors

3:11 am on Dec 17, 2005 (gmt 0)



If Google's alghoritms decide that publisher should be banned, he/she will be banned for apparent or no apparent reason.

Not according to AdSenseAdvisor, who posted on this topic a while back.

vbignacio

4:13 am on Dec 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It really makes me feel good to know that if publishers just comply with TOS, their beneficial working relationship with Google will continue for a long time. Being a publisher for Google and other affiliate programs is the best thing that happened to me.

I appreciate all your replies to my query.

gendude

4:24 am on Dec 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I agree with what the others have said - usually when somebody has been banned, they've violated the TOS somewhere - Google doesn't just ban for any reason. It isn't some kind of random lottery type thing.

I am surprised I don't see more people in here and elsewhere complaining they were banned - as many sites as there are in violation of the TOS...

beggers

4:38 am on Dec 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My experiences with the Adsense people have been extremely good. They politely asked me to remove the code from a couple of sites that didn't meet their TOS, which I did, and it was no big deal.

I've also advised them of a few times I accidently clicked on my own ads during site development (it's not that hard to do when you have about 12 windows open) and they thanked me for reporting it. I'm still with them and actually had one of my best days ever yesterday.

If you go to them first with your questions and concerns it's a lot better than if they find out by themselves that you're breaking the TOS. Just keep them informed.