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November 2023 Google Search Observations

         

RedBar

8:56 am on Nov 1, 2023 (gmt 0)

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Global site Monday and Tuesday USA traffic -40%

So far today, Wednesday, 40% of my traffic is from the Russian Federation, not bots.





[edited by: not2easy at 12:49 pm (utc) on Nov 1, 2023]
[edit reason] split cleanup - New month, new thread [/edit]

JesterMagic

2:58 pm on Nov 16, 2023 (gmt 0)

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I saw a big drop yesterday as well... 20%... most likely related to the review update though the site in the last 3 months has been hit multiple times and has dropped a huge amount (site is 20 years old)

mosxu

5:12 pm on Nov 16, 2023 (gmt 0)

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It is broken,

Yesterday I was trying some research on a certain subject and I am not joking could not find any useful information!

Tried to read 10 articles and all said nothing all junk built for search engines!

superclown2

6:00 pm on Nov 16, 2023 (gmt 0)



Yesterday I was trying some research on a certain subject and I am not joking could not find any useful information!


I always used to dismiss conspiracy theories. If you told me a year ago that Google would deliberately put out poor search results so that people would have to spend more time searching and so be more likely to click on ads I would have dismissed it out of hand.

Since then I've read a lot of the testimony in the trial. Mind blowing.

swdcreative

6:05 pm on Nov 16, 2023 (gmt 0)

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SERPs more volatile today and yesterday

mosxu

6:23 pm on Nov 16, 2023 (gmt 0)

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Today only zombies here!

For those who do not have the definition of a zombie:

“a user who pretends to be a real human”

haramamba

6:43 am on Nov 17, 2023 (gmt 0)

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G is cheating with video descriptions now.
If I search for something with "brand" in quotes, G shows videos from competitors with the description text taken from the brand's website.

superclown2

7:28 am on Nov 17, 2023 (gmt 0)



Total annihilation ! my 18 years website lost more than 80% of its traffic and still going down. What the f** is going on with G !


What's going on is Google is working for higher profits again this month. Read the trial testimonies and all will become clear.

It's simple: when they want to squeeze more money out of the Web they pack Chrome and Android with Googlespam to push the organics ever lower. If you check their SERPs on other browsers you can see when this happens. It will continue for as long as they control the main desktop and mobile browsers.

Martin Ice Web

9:34 am on Nov 17, 2023 (gmt 0)

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Yesterday I was trying some research on a certain subject and I am not joking could not find any useful information!


I agree and once again i have to add that all this fake test sites, e.g.

the 10 best [item],
ranking the best [item],
testing of the best 10 [item]
...


are a complete desaster for users. None of these site content producers ever have seen the item(s) in real life. Its all fake and beeing produced for amazon affiliate ads. So much to EAT. If google real cares about their users than it would banish this harmfull sites.

We are still way up ( what is good though ) but it is FZM (Full Zombie Mode)

BigKat

2:20 pm on Nov 17, 2023 (gmt 0)

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What's going on is Google is working for higher profits again this month. Read the trial testimonies and all will become clear.

Data revealed in those court documents paints a picture of Google defrauding advertisers out of a lot of money, which I'm sure is a small sliver of what they've gotten away with. What was revealed outside of court, involving Youtube ads, was estimated to have defrauded advertisers out of billions of dollars itself. This helps explain the ever-worsening ROI with Google and Youtube ads, which has driven many advertisers off their ad platform and makes it even more difficult for Google to attain higher profits with fewer advertisers. Also, the excessive number of ads in the SERPS is turning off users, which we see ourselves with rising traffic/sales from other search engines. There's a serious lack of diversity for some specialized products in Google search, which essentially omits all organic results from view.

I just don't see where Google can go from here to achieve higher profits. Bing's ad revenue growth has exceeded Google's in multiple quarters, and I don't see that changing. Google will have to get even more creative, or arguably more criminal, in how they meet revenue goals without turning off more users and driving more advertisers away.

christianz

3:16 pm on Nov 17, 2023 (gmt 0)

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Very weak traffic today and since latter part of yesterday. Wednesday was ray of hope but it was gone the next day.

I am also getting record volume of bot activity - all kinds of bots. Scrapers, indexers etc.

l1fejosh

8:58 pm on Nov 17, 2023 (gmt 0)

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Moving further down SERPs for the past week after multiple weeks of increased traffic and growth.

ichthyous

9:01 pm on Nov 17, 2023 (gmt 0)

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I just don't see where Google can go from here to achieve higher profits. Bing's ad revenue growth has exceeded Google's in multiple quarters, and I don't see that changing. Google will have to get even more creative, or arguably more criminal, in how they meet revenue goals without turning off more users and driving more advertisers away.


@BigKat I think Google is pinning its hopes on AI and is probably working furiously behind the scenes to figure out how to transition to a business model where most of the profits are derived from AI. Google Search is more and more seen as an outmoded technology. Although realistically where else is there to turn...social media? That's a laugh. Basically for shopping people just go directly to Amazon, and now for content people will just ask whatever AI chatbot they use. Many will also use YouTube, but not everyone wants to watch an entire video just to find the answer to a question, it's very tedious.

EditorialGuy

9:49 am on Nov 18, 2023 (gmt 0)

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Google Search is more and more seen as an outmoded technology.

By whom? The average user doesn't care how the work gets done behind the scenes. Besides, Google has been using artificial intelligence in its search engine for a long time.

superclown2

10:47 am on Nov 18, 2023 (gmt 0)



By whom?


I would say the 500 million or so who use Pinterest, and the millions that use ChatGPT for searches, are a good start. Particularly now the latter can search the Internet in real time to find answers.

Razorllama

10:55 am on Nov 18, 2023 (gmt 0)

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OK, so that's a fun experiment that worked out.

On one of my sites, the posts thrown off the SERPs were 'best of' type articles - other posts stayed in the SERPs and didn't change their position much.
Those articles were off the SERPs for more than a month and over the past two days I completely de-SEO'd them. No phrases in the H2 or the body text AT ALL.
Since yesterday evening, literally every single one of these posts has bounced back in the SERPs at #3-#5 position.

I want to mention that neither of these articles was SEO overturned, keyword stuffed, or whatever. They featured original images, were written by me as I used the products etc.

I wonder if the edits were more in tune with the 'Don't write for search engines' mantra Google mentioned a month or so ago. I also wonder whether they'll stick around, hopefully yes.

These articles aside, I seem to have stabilized in terms of traffic over the past few days. The -20/25% earlier this week have climbed a bit and now I'm at -7% compared to past 3 weeks' performance. Considering the SERP volatility, I'd take it.

ichthyous

2:57 pm on Nov 18, 2023 (gmt 0)

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By whom?


Anyone under 40...[nbcnews.com ]. Just search for this topic there are 100 articles talking about how younger people are not using google anymore. I find the idea terrifying that they would use TikTok for searching for anything, but it's true. I think it's probably limited to specific types of searches as tiktok is very limited in its scope. Google sees the organic search model dying and they intend to replace it with an AI based platform in order to survive. I doubt that these shifts bode well for any website.

oldog

3:18 pm on Nov 18, 2023 (gmt 0)

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It makes me lough out loud :-) Poogle resurrected dead pages lost for years! outdated not mobile friendly, blacklisted for links etc etc....I bet the algo is stoned by the funny smoke of its engineer's joints -:))))
I had an old site that was penalized during the Penguin update! Real competitive market...now it ranks on top ten for each targeted keyword ...lol...Not mobile friendly, thin content, dozens of affiliate links haaaahahaa...Don't Bogart that joint my friend pass it over to me ....

christianz

4:02 pm on Nov 18, 2023 (gmt 0)

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From the NBC aritcle:

"People want to hear from people — and there’s no place better for that than on TikTok," wrote one Twitter user.


Exactly. Nobody wants to see EAT / made-for-SEO / made-for-affiliate / made-for-ads junk, that is increasingly auto generated.

As long Google ranks only based on EAT and Priority Publisher status ("quality sources", "trusted sources"), they will NEVER fix this. They will keep loosing younger searchers.

YouTube will lose users too, because it is already impossible to find first hand experience of events / locations that are also covered by mainstream media.

Conro

5:29 pm on Nov 18, 2023 (gmt 0)

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I doubt people are looking for something serious on TikTok

adman

5:59 pm on Nov 18, 2023 (gmt 0)

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Young people use TikTok a lot, and they tend to search by inertia everything there, because they hate to open the browser and type in Google search.
Why do you think USA is banning TikTok?
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christianz

8:05 pm on Nov 18, 2023 (gmt 0)

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Apparently businesses are appending "Reddit" to their company names in GBP...

How long before we find brick & mortar mom & pop stores with the word "Reddit" included on the actual street sign?

ember

10:08 pm on Nov 18, 2023 (gmt 0)

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I say ban it all and let's go back to three TV channels and a major newspaper in every city. We got all the news we needed. Seriously.

adman

2:33 am on Nov 19, 2023 (gmt 0)

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I was buying the newsparers the other day, and I ask the seller "Are they today's?".
She said "It doesn't matter, they just change dates." :)

Conro

8:03 am on Nov 19, 2023 (gmt 0)

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Google search in 2023:
Ads ads ads ads
Paa
YouTube
Search correlate
Reddit
Quora
Forum
Paa
You site (with every day Lost keywords"

"why i Lost traffic? I don't understand. Maybe is my eeat or the content"

Micha

8:09 am on Nov 19, 2023 (gmt 0)

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@Conro
You site (with every day Lost keywords"

Google is already working on getting .... our annoying websites even further down the list :)

Conro

8:25 am on Nov 19, 2023 (gmt 0)

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@Micha Exactly

christianz

10:50 am on Nov 19, 2023 (gmt 0)

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Last 3 days traffic has been weak and getting weaker.

mysitegothithard

1:27 pm on Nov 19, 2023 (gmt 0)

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My traffic is going down day by day. Do you guys think it's worth adding more content and editing more than 900 posts to see if anything changes?

tom_010101

6:12 am on Nov 20, 2023 (gmt 0)

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I can't imagine that this will do anything. Countless pages are affected with different content, structure, topics, etc. I believe it is NOT our websites but ***-Google's fault.

oldog

6:32 am on Nov 20, 2023 (gmt 0)

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The core and review update hasn't finished yet....why it takes so long ?
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