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In this one, specific, narrow area, are search engines' interpretations of usefulness getting skewed because the only behavior they see is this particular stage of browsing?
Together with your stylesheet and js files (to which they now demand access)
sit a web page, right click and select Inspect Element. Put your mouse over any div element in the code window and see how the area on the page is highlighted and its dimensions in pixels displayed. To the extent that Google is able to classify the content of each div, they can measure the % of visible content dedicated to advertising, images, text, widgets, maps etc. Together with your stylesheet and js files (to which they now demand access) they can calculate the % of white space around content, because they know the fonts and font sizes used, borders and the space between lines and paragraphs.
what about all the sites that have popup windows popping up on top of what you're trying to read?
Also, what about the sites that freeze your browser to force you to wait for ads to load?
fathom -- what about all the sites that have popup windows popping up on top of what you're trying to read?
Also, what about the sites that freeze your browser to force you to wait for ads to load?
I thought that was what the back button is for.
I try to click it as quickly as possible if coming from Google so they know I think their result was crap.
Then I type Bing.com in my address bar and hit Enter just to emphasize the point.
If you consistently fight your way through the ads and regularly come back to the site and spend time there, then what's to be concluded but that you want to be there and are finding something of value, bad UX or not?
There's a difference between you regularly visiting a site directly and someone landing there for the first time as a result of a search. I think the way Google weighs the engagement is going to be different just based on how they're able to collect data about the visit but also based on the fact that one method can be measured against their search product and the other can't.
[edited by: webcentric at 11:30 pm (utc) on Jun 1, 2015]
So loyalty devalues your value to a website. Me thinks this is purely conjecture.
There's a difference between you regularly visiting a site directly and someone landing there for the first time as a result of a search.
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I've been saying UX is an SEO factor for 15 years. Been teaching UX at the Searchenginecollege (run by Kalena Jordan) for a dozen years so that SEO students have the basics.
To show you completely agree with me... you used guesswork as your own claim.
Quoting myself: What I care about is the possibility that my behavior is sending a message to Google about the (ad bloated) resource they sent me to.
When these processes are facts - I will embrace them
Do you contest the notion that Google is monitoring behavior? Do you contest my consideration of the "possibility" that if Google is monitoring behavior, they could easily be drawing conclusions about UX based on that monitoring?
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Keywords
Focus on longtail phrases
Focus on ranking for specific keyword phrases
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Does this mean we should all avoid using long tailed keywords now?
...IMO, exact match long-tail data isn't a very fruitful way to target any more. It hasn't been for quite a while. Longtail SEO is not about creating content to match exact long-tail variations... [It's] going to take a familiarity with the marketplace and what the site is offering.
Knowing this and doing something with this knowledge are completely two different things.
Maile Ohye from Google warned webmasters at SMX Advanced that they will also be bringing up the issue of interstitials and how pages that use them will be affected. “Interstitials are bad for users, so be aware this is something we are thinking about,” she said.
She then continued on to say that content hidden behind interstitials would be devalued.
[edited by: fathom at 5:46 am (utc) on Jun 5, 2015]
I will normally hit my back button pretty quickly
Not sure the search engine even has a way of knowing when I've force-quit the browser due to beyond-the-pale atrocious behavior of some first-page result.
Even if 97% of searchers use Search Engines the same way you do (mass-opening tabs in new windows), and only 3% use the "open-then-hit-back" approach, the 3% is still entirely sufficient for Google to draw very meaningful conclusions from as to what should rank where.