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people tend not to worry about trends or their fellow webmasters
people will eventually wake up to the idea
some people will celebrate an increase in organic traffic
Thinking/telling people traffic will always keep being sent to one site or another
not so many people are sure how to positively improve ranks
The WWW, at least in my world, is a living, breathing, and moving thing. You put your finger into one leak, another springs up over there somewhere. And no matter how hard you try to control it, whether it be through Adwords or Boxes, or any other sort of coded fence, the WWW will turn on you and go it's own direction.
many of the people who have ebay stores, etsy stores, or sell on amazon were people who couldn't rank organically
Sure .. Google is putting the squeeze to organic traffic, and it may indeed one day, go away altogether from Google.
However the Google fanboys and fangirls have drunk deeply from the Google koolaid and cannot see what is going wrong.
Organic Web search wasn't invented to help businesses sell things. It was invented to help Web users find things.
When you have to resort to name-calling, you've lost the argument.No. It is actually quite an accurate description of the way that some people still believe every bit of PR fluff that emanates from Google.
Google isn't "at a crossroads," and organic search traffic is very much alive.Google is at a crossroads and it is not one that is immediately obvious. It is the crossroads between the Dead Web (Published content) and the Live Web (Social Media driven). It has repeatedly failed with its own Social Media efforts and now SM is creating what are, in effect, walled gardens.
Remember when Google got fed up with the thin affiliate sites that cluttered its search results 10 or 12 years ago?Easily dealt with. But Google had competition then and it gave Google an advantage.
Or when it gave the shaft to "click arbitrage" AdSense sites that added no value for searchers?And I even remember discussions with the people who were doing that and explaining what would happen. This was during the whole Domain Tasting mess of 2005-2009. But that too was easily dealt with and it was ICANN's decision to impose a restocking fee on domains registered and deleted in the five day Add Grace Period that solved that problem rather than Google.
Or when it told the likes of Demand Media to take a hike with Panda 1.0?Crudely and inelegantly handled.
Maybe Google is starting to take that same hardnosed attitude toward e-commerce sites that emphasize SEO over useful content.No. Google seems to have realised that poor SERPs make people search again. As such they can be served more advertising. That's why Google's advertising in SERPs has become more like the SERPs themselves. Some of the large e-commerce sites such as eBay and Amazon already have a walled garden operation with a critical mass of users that no longer need Google. This balkanisation is bad for Google because it is losing eyeballs and opportunities to put its advertising in front of them.
Stop obsessing about what you want from Google and think about what Web users want from Google.
Google isn't "at a crossroads"
Organic Web search wasn't invented to help businesses sell things
If you want to sell something, buy some advertising!
I believe commerce and information should be separated in the SERPs.
Like a lot of us I've done very nicely out of free advertising for many, many years and most of it has come from Google. If it continues, great. If not, back to Plan A.
Some of us don't know how lucky we are.
I see free advertising via the SERPs as a long-standing, loss-leader program that can be modified or discontinued at any time.
I don't really see how this pointless discussion has anything to do with Google SEO or this forum anymore.
[edited by: webcentric at 5:52 pm (utc) on Jul 14, 2014]
So, you'd label a discussion pointless because of a few negative comments. Here's what may be fast becoming pointless, discussing Google SEO. If you have something point-full to say, I'm sure we'd all love to hear it.
[edited by: goodroi at 8:16 pm (utc) on Jul 14, 2014]