joined:Mar 17, 2006
Help me understand what's going on here!
Let me ask the question first, then fill in details: when you move a site, do all of its past issues move with it or do they stay associated with the OLD site? And a corollary of this: how can Google check if the issues have been fixed if they cannot even browse the old site since all URLs forward to the new?
I have just received a rejection of my RR for a site that is no longer a separate entity because all of its content has been moved to a new domain (mostly for branding purposes). The reason I submitted the RR for an old site in the first place was mostly desire to clear my own name. I had almost all sites in my WMT account banned some 2 years ago. In my humble opinion the outright ban was not justified and it was reversed some 6 months later after I had a chance to explain some things to the G quality team in a short email exchange. In any way, although some sites did have issues, I have a feeling other sites have simply been rounded up because I owned them, hence my efforts to clear my name.
My cause was not helped along by the fact that pretty much all banned sites had some amount of spam in UGC. Nothing you see them ban sites for normally, but unpleasant nevertheless. I have closed some of the penalized sites and redoubled my efforts to support the remaining few. Some sites were moved to new locations.
So I spent last two years fixing problems and removing UGC spam and sending RRs as I finish with the particular site. So far I have received approx. 50% "manual action revoked" and the rest is split between "no answer" and "one or more pages still violate". I don't know how to place "no answer" and, to be fair, all RRs I sent in the last 6-9 months have been responded to, so it's more like 50/50 yay or nay these days.
I can find no rhyme or reason to the responses, it feels like a lottery. I had sites which had serious "inorganic links" issues (see my previous posts for details) which had penalties "revoked" after a disavow and an RR. I had sites with no link issues I know of but UGC spam which was cleaned and penalty "revoked". I had sites that moved that were "revoked" and I had sites that remained at the old domain that were "revoked". I use "revoked" in quotes because the traffic never returned or even changed upwards a slightest bit, I simply got a message from G saying "manual action revoked".
But then I got sites with exactly the same types of issues and sometimes even more of the issues fixed that got rejected. I have to say though that all of the rejected sites in the last 6 months are the ones forwarding to new addresses. So, if I can sneak in the last question into this long message: are forwarded sites more prone to RR rejections? Perhaps because they cannot actually browse them per se - so should I even bother sending RRs for old forwarded domains?