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Weather report: Penguin data refresh coming today. 0.3% of English queries noticeably affected.
[edited by: Robert_Charlton at 1:56 am (utc) on Oct 6, 2012]
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Or is the data that Penguin is using probably from a couple of days before the run?
the site earned new backlinks from places like the library of congress, got into DMOZ, won awards, got on Forbes, and a few edu mentions. These links all used either example.com, example, www.example.com, or http://www.example.com as anchor text.
domains with thousands and thousands of foreign (.ru) backlinks
With sites apparently hardly recovering, or not at all, this means Google results are extremely vulnerable for foul play. Anyone with a "clean" site, or -even better- a couple of "clean" sites- (and a big budget) can control not just one sites' position, but the entire outcome for a search term by hiring a bunch of link spammers and target everyone else for that search. Down goes everyone else, reigns Mr. "clean". I just can't believe this.
Does it sound paranoid to state this may be one of the reasons big brands (think: deep pockets) are ranking so well these days?
Ralph_Slate wrote:
I don't think that Penguin outweighs all the other parts. I think that a strong backlink profile for a specific page can negate Penguin; I was hit on April 24 - not sure if it is Penguin or Panda - I am still seeing many of my pages ranking at the #1 position or on the first page; however others with similar amounts of content are not found in the first few pages, and others are nowhere to be found anywhere in the SERPS.
@Ralph_Slate -- Your description of what happened to your site sounds exactly like Penguin. It's exactly what happened to my two Penguibized sites. Some pages didn't drop, some dropped slightly, and some fell into oblivion. I think the hard-hit pages on these sites were penalized because they had artificial backlinks with anchor text containing their keywords. But I also think that all the pages were weakened somewhat, even those that held onto a #1 position in the rankings, because Penguin apparently devalues many of a site's backlinks, so that the total "pagerank juice" coming into the site is reduced.
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Have you guys recovered your rankings as of this latest "Penguin" update?
Wouldn't removing your links have the same effect as Penguin? The difference is you've cleaned up your site and can start building and working on remedying other elements.
Google still has a record of the keywords you used in the anchor text of any purchased or artificially-built backlinks. So even if you remove the backlinks, the site could still be penalized for those keywords.
Google still has a record of the keywords you used in the anchor text of any purchased or artificially-built backlinks. So even if you remove the backlinks, the site could still be penalized for those keywords.
Is there any proof of this?