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Would filtering content for users who request it be considered cloaking?

         

Rufal

7:23 pm on Aug 31, 2012 (gmt 0)

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I have a website that deals with specific interests i.e. Blue widgets, green widgets, yellow, gray...... etc.

I have had the site set up as /blue_widget/ & /green_widget/ etc.. But that format is a huge inconvenience to my users.
So I am changing the basic behavior to / being "all widgets" for all. and for those who want to narrow their focus (i.e. search,. listings, and such). I will allow them to select a list (checkboxes) and server side filter the results based on their pre-defined selections. Urls will be the same and visible by all. No difference from googlebot or safari user nr. 5000.
But there definitely will be a difference between users (logged in or not) that have opted to filter their interest.

Sounds good, will benefit my users, but I do not want to take the change of Google blacklisting the website for cloaking.

ps. (this is a 10 year old established site that did not have any panda problems).

aakk9999

8:13 pm on Aug 31, 2012 (gmt 0)

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If you show all widgets on the home page and allow users to filter blue widgets, green widgets, that is not cloaking.

With regards to /blue_widget/ and /green_widget/ etc. URLs - will they disappear? As if they do, this may impact your traffic if these pages were ranked.

If it wasn't the home page where you show all widgets, I would have suggested that you noindex the page that shows all widgets and allows filtering and keep /blue_widget/, /green_widget/ etc interlinked in your site. But of course you cannot noindex home page (although there may be other ways to keep all widgets away from it, such as iframe or ajax).

BTW, what is currently on the home page? Do you have any widgets shown there and how many?

deadsea

10:21 pm on Aug 31, 2012 (gmt 0)

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Differences for logged in users is NOT cloaking.

The only time that it would be an issue at all that Google might be concerned about is a case like this: A logged in user does a search for "yellow widgets" and lands on your site but doesn't find yellow widgets because they set a preference to filter them out.

Robert Charlton

6:54 am on Sep 1, 2012 (gmt 0)

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I'm assuming you're thinking that everything would be on the native page, but display of the page would be customized, say by using CSS triggered by user selections to show/hide divs. Display for logged in users, I assume, would use javascript cookies to remember settings. This would not be considered cloaking.

With regard to SEO considerations, the question reminds me of this discussion....

Dynamic Single Product Page - Can this be successful for SEO?
http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/4424746.htm [webmasterworld.com]

Some posters in the thread had used such pages and noted that they performed well. Others felt that the pages might get defocused for search.

I posted at length, suggesting that this setup could well mess up SEO, but that it very much depends on what kind of widgets you're dealing with... ie, whether blue, green, gray represent characteristics that might be searched for separately, or whether they're incidental to how the widget would be found.

In the case of, say, shirts, I felt that color and pattern, eg, might be easily merged on one page. On the other hand...

If you start trying to include sets of characteristics that would normally involve specific searches... like brandname, style, fabric-type, catalogue number, then IMO you're muddying the waters considerably, and you'd be messing up SEO quite a bit....


The above thought relates a bit to deadsea's very intriguing point here...

The only time that it would be an issue at all that Google might be concerned about is a case like this: A logged in user does a search for "yellow widgets" and lands on your site but doesn't find yellow widgets because they set a preference to filter them out.

This is another consideration why, I feel, that if "yellow widgets" is very likely to be searched, you probably don't want it to be filterable... you'd want it on a separately targeted page.

netmeg

11:27 am on Sep 1, 2012 (gmt 0)

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Granted they can probably get away with a lot of things that we can't, but Amazon does this; so does eBay and most of the large/big brand ecommerce sites.