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At what point do sites become immune from SERP changes?

         

londrum

7:58 pm on Jul 3, 2012 (gmt 0)

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we are always wailing and complaining about our sites bouncing around in the SERPs, but i never notice the big sites dropping (unless they are specifically targeted for a particular reason, like eHow)

everyday few days i check my positions in the SEPRs and i always see the big sites in more or less the same places. maybe they drop a place or two, and the next week they rise again, and stuff like that, but they basically keep the same level all the time.

so at what point does a site become big enough to be immune from SERP changes? because it must happen. once you reach a certain size and traffic threshold, then im sure you are pretty much safe from the changes that the little sites experience.

have you ever owned a site that has achieved it? what kind of traffic are we talking about to do it?

let me just say that my site is pretty sizeable, but certainly not big enough to be rock steady in the SERPs. so i am not one of these sites that im talking about. although i haven't been hit be anything major for a good long time (touch wood).

tedster

9:55 pm on Jul 3, 2012 (gmt 0)

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Even the biggest global companies I've worked with can lose their non-branded rankings or see them shuffle positions. No such thing as immunity there. Of course, it's very hard for a big brand to lose position on queries that use their brand name - even when they get a penalty for violating Google's guidelines.

netmeg

10:09 pm on Jul 3, 2012 (gmt 0)

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But on the flip side, smaller sites can be pretty much anchored in the SERPS for years and years if they are the most trusted, the more authoritative answer for a particular set of queries. It's *not* just big name. It's also trust and authority.

We see more big brands because they get more benefit of the doubt. I think if Google can't find what it considers a clear authority, it defaults to a big brand.

Which, when you think about it, is pretty much what human types do, too.

zehrila

10:49 pm on Jul 3, 2012 (gmt 0)

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If you are competing Google, you are not immune. If you are in a niche where Google might get into, you are not immune. If you are not a brand, you are not immune. If you are a mom pop site, you are not immune.

However, if you have lot of branding signals pointing to your site, and its some remote niche, given that you have huge user trust and domain authority, you can probably stay immune for a very long time, i have seen that happening with a site which has crappiest back link profile, but stood still through all sort of updates over past 5 years, the only reason i can come to think of is because he has tons of type ins and avg user browses upto 6 pages.

The way i look at it is, the more domain trust rank goes up, more immune the site becomes to penalties caused by low quality links. One simply cannot take down Webmasterworld by point 1000 spammy low quality links, however, relatively newer sites with less immunity can be taken down using the same spammy links.